Valen Infinate immposible to win it is like a cheat card

Playing game in wild 21/02/2025 Valen is impossible to remove. No matter how I kill this opponent card it just keeps coming back which is impossible to win

Silence it.
Bounce it back to their hand.
Bounce it back to their deck.
Steal it for yourself.
Make it dormant.
Just ignore it, and kill your opponent with spells.

Plenty of ways to win.

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Adding to that
Transform it.
Win before your opponent reaches turn 7.
Destroy the card before it’s been played

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You make it sound so easy, well it’s not. I shouldn’t have to change all my decks because of a single broken card. And even if you do run those cards if you don’t draw them in time you’re going to have a rough game. Keep this in mind, I highly doubt when the devs made that card, pretty sure they didn’t intend to make it return infinitely.

Valen should not summon itself. Period. Problem solved.

Yeah let’s make cards do something different that what their text indicates they do. I’m sure this will solve more problems than it would create.

To be fair, they did that with Shudderwock. Change Saronite Chain Gang to “Battlecry: Summon another Saronite Chain Gang”

I also don’t think its wrong to dislike losing off a 2 card combo but I agree there’s far worse you can do in Wild and Velen’s answers are already common-place and versatile

yes, then they reverted Saronite Chain Gang when they did the big wild update
Meaning they intended to allow the infinite shudderwock combo in wild
They even have 4 additional options now, including 3 cheaper ones

My point was just that can change Saronite Chain Gang without creating the issue you described

The issue is purely one of what is fun and balanced

Then it doesn’t belong in the Bug Report forum.

But that would not be what Grim is asking for
“Change the wording and mechanics of every single card in the game that have those words and enable this synergy”
isn’t
“make a rule exception for one specific card”
as the former will have more consequences than just adressing Velen

I agree. This is not a bug but none of the responses seemed to be treating it as a bug either so I assumed everyone was already on the same page that this had become a balance discussion

I see what you mean now. Initially, I had not interpreted that comment so literally though I do not see how my suggestion of reverting Saronite Chain Gang is contrary to Grim’s or MarkViderMV’s desires. The intent is still “change anything about the interaction to stop Velen resummoning himself”

I did not say that they contradict eachother
If you’re bothered by a bird chirping in the morning you can burn the entire forest, bird will be gone

This conversation has well and truly diverged from a bug discussion. Clearly we’re just not on the same page about something probably multiple things at this point and nothing new is going to be said

Edit: If someone poses a flawed solution when a far more elegant solution exists and solves the problem equally, we don’t need to continue discussing the flawed one. Lets not consider burning the forest further when you can just close the window.