Having to deal with Tsunami on turn 5 either due to King Tide or Portalmancer Skyla seems a bit broken. I wonder, don’t the developers see that the game is broken with all these overpowered card and combos? Devs, what is your strategy? Will you allow the companies to milk the game to death?
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100% agree. As soon as you see the first Tsunami, it’s over. It’s super frustrating.
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And in almost all cases there is no counterplay to that. It’s insta concede afterwards. You have to be lucky to manage to play a proper game in this meta. I wonder, don’t the devs see it?
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ok but what happens when both players do it? who concedes then?
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The mage that doesnt have conman on the next turn xD
who conmans while they have a full board?
4 elementals, into a 4/4 leaves only 2 spots
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Just jam it dont think too hard 
I thought you were making a joke and i was trying to make a dumb joke to follow up on yours lol
If both have the combo on turn 5 then it depends on the randomness. The issue is what other counters exist apart from the mirror one, and if the combo is broken. Which I think it is. Also, big swings leave a very bad taste, as if the game and board does not matter. If you win you have no sense of achievement, if you lose you don’t learn anything…
Tsunami on 5, followed by another on 6 is pretty much a death knell for many decks. There are some classes with the tools to clear both, but even then, they’ve taken a lot of face damage and are vulnerable to whatever face nukes the mage has left. It really is a bit of a craptastic thing to have to deal with, regardless of class. Then again, when was the last time that playing against a mage of any flavor could be classified as a “fun” experience?
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You guys are late to the news so I’ll tell them to you straight. The BSM is an absolute tyrant against the typical mid-range combo deck; forget your evolution shamans and rainbow whatevers; those are last month’s news.
If you want to beat that mage you just play a different fast deck; the BSM loses even to slower fast aggro decks because it’s clunky compared to them; it’s why the entire meta this month is obscenely fast.
I unfortunately lost to a Brann Warrior because it also ran Reno. Totally was able to just absorb all 4 casts of tsunami with their taunts and armor and brawl and reno of course. I had them down to single digit hp at least 3 times but the could just bounce back with nearly 20 to 30 armor the turn after I would… total bummer. And I had tsunami out on like turn 6 or 7…
But an Aggro deck that ends the game on turn 5-6 is okay? It’s the same thing just from a different setup.
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yes because if you died to an aggro deck on turn 5-6 it’s either bad luck or your fault, not the deck being OP. When you die to multiple tsunami’s there’s not much you could’ve done no matter what cards you have. When I die to aggro early, I chalk it up to they got the perfect draw and were lucky, not that the aggro deck is OP.
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Uh you forgot the real answer. The aggro deck is just better overall. Why do you think Aggro is the go to for countering the BSM? Also BSM is not invincible. It’s a tier 2 deck and has lots of bad matchups.
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I just went a dusted a bunch of golden cards that I hadn’t bothered dusting. Got enough to build this current mage deck. It’s really dumb. The game really is over by turn 5. I built it because I got frustrated playing against it. I figured I’d build it myself, learn it, and figure out it’s weakness. This deck is insanely broken.
This is one of the most boring metas in a while. Very few playable decks right now.
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U had 5 turns to answer the deck with the opponent winning GRADUALLY, BSM defeats u on a single turn by creating a huge power gap difference.
There is a BIG difference.
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This ^ is an uncommon occurrence. How uncommon you might ask:
If the BSM player went second. Then it’s 0%.
Skyla on turn 5 + Tsunami is also an uncommon occurrence for BSM, because it requires Skyla + 2 coins + Tsunami to be in hand on 5 + plus conditions that allow for it to happen (like your opponent did not cast Neophyte last turn, etc.).
Ya, BSM has two potential ways to make a Turn 5 Tsunami happen, but it probably happens less than 10 percent of the time.
There are 6 or more decks more broken than BSM. Although Rogue, DK (maybe not blood DK?), Warrior (there are some Warrior builds that seem equipped to deal with BSM), and Shaman may have good reason to feel like BSM is OP. I have to think that a lot of the biggest complainers about BSM were mainly playing one of these four classes before Perils.
Rarely, because of BSM.
If BSM wins, it’s generally going to be turn 7 or beyond, the majority of the time:
https://imgur.com/a/n1d1pvd
So much can be learned from doing this ^. Sometimes one learns the grass isn’t as green over there as one had previously thought.
In a meta full of broken decks, there are plenty of decks that are more powerful than BSM.
I think you are wrong, the meta is quite diverse class wise, and several classes have several archetypes to choose from.
Mage had something new to play because of Perils and a lot of players flocked to BSM because of that. It’s what brought me back to Standard.
The meta has adjusted to BSM. There are quite a few different decks that are favored against BSM on the Ladder right now, and Mage was on the decline today. Today, less than 10 percent of my matches today were against BSM. I just hit Diamond today with BSM on a second account.
The classes that I played against the most today (in order from most to least) were:
DK
Mage (nearly half were Elemental Mage)
Warrior
Rogue
Paladin
Druid
Warlock
Priest
Hunter
Shaman
Surprisingly, I faced zero DH today.
Yet i can play at least 6 different decks to beat the BSM. What’s your point? It’s not invincible.
Every mage I’ve played in the last week or so has played this combo. Or the Portalmancer Skyla combo. So, I’d say it’s more like 100%. Unless I’ve been REALLY unlucky in my macthups.
Regardless this combo is seriously broken, especially in casual play. If I were the devs, I’d ban Tsunami.