I think it’s the exception rather than the rule that a viable deck only needs cards from a single year.
DH being the obvious exception.
Looks like ooze has already replaced sphere
You’re not describing decks, you’re describing Hearthstone. Hearthstone’s motto is its never over because their is always a chance you can randomly get a I win card randomly.
I don’t quite get the satisfaction that comes with winning or losing in Standard. Oh boy, I beat a Mage who randomly got random cards that did not allow them to randomly win the match. My deck piloting must be amazing. Oh look, I lost to a Priest who randomly stole/got random cards that allowed them to win the game. Oh no, I must be awful at piloting my deck.
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No lmao. Plenty of decks still rely on win conditions that are actually in their deck rather than making the opponent pray around lolrandom discovery answers every turn and bs like Jandice.
Warrior decks, Aggro Rogue, all Hunter decks, all DH decks, all Paladin decks, Burn Shaman, Token Druid, Zoo and Gala Warlock have minimum discovery bs compared to clown fiesta scam like “miracle” Rogue or Priest or “tempo” Mage. With those opponents you can actually play around the power turns instead of staring at their hand full of generated bs that can scam you out of the win just like that.
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They added a “ramp the everyone to 10 mana” legendary at a time when Paladin had no 10 mana plays worth ramping to. Just because it’s a card that can be used now, doesn’t mean it was badly designed when it first came out.
“The ugly duckling was ugly when it was young. That’s all that matters!” - you basically
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Paladins kept getting cards from wildly different archetypes, with none of them ever sticking, at a time when ever trying to play any kind of Paladin deck was a giant meme.
Just because the end of year expansion threw in a critical mass of cards that can work with some of the older cards, doesn’t mean those older cards were always just fine.
Depending on what class you are, Pally’s have been cheating out a Libram of Hope the same way for over a year in a sometimes insurmountable turn.
If they tip the scales t4/t5, the key is to remove Murloc Warleader ASAP (assuming they came out). That damage buff changes something manageable to absolutely backbreaking.
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I love Bunny even more now.
And what determines whether a Discovery card is “clown fiesta”?
I don’t remember anyone ever calling Stonehill Defender and Sindragosa “clown fiesta” cards and calling Big Spell Mage of 2018 a scam deck…
Because it was a control deck. And it’s the control deck players who are throwing these terms around to downplay the skill required from their opponent in unfavored matchups.
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The sheer concentration of them in the deck.
I’m not talking about a single card but entire decks. They’re scam decks. Priest literally has a deck whose entire win condition is generating random bs and discounting its cost tenfold right now lmao. A true sight to behold in high legend. Most cards in “miracle” Rogue generate cards. “Tempo” Mage generated entire lolrandom hands.
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I’d say the closest thing to a ‘clown fiesta’ would be discovery cards w/o any limitations (cost, card type, etc).
And?
Looking what happened to the game after changes to make it “feel fair” i would personally double down on telling that it is a dumb decision like I done before.
Because looking at what happened to the game as consequence it really was really a dumb decision to nerf all those cards.
If for some people actually feel that the game is “fair” you need to actually throw balance by the window like it was done then it isn’t a good decision to make they feel that the game is “fair”.
Everyone here knows that we would not have passed by both DH and Shaman infested and imbalanced (for real and not “feeling unfair”) if there wasn’t so many scholomance nerfs using people feelings as justification for what has no justification only to satisfy a SMALL part of community.
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So it’s only a clown fiesta card when played to out value a control deck? Lmao!
Toning down scam decks is always a good decision.
Pros complained about Priest and Mage for a good reason. They were rampant during the GM season and having the competition rely on borderline casino where even the best players can’t play around the opponent’s outs (because they’re bloody random with so many variations every time) felt like the game is just completely out of your control.
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This deck not nearly as bad as getting randomly generated to death, it’s a breath of fresh air that still gets countered by control warlock and warrior.
It’s a clown fiesta deck when half of your deck or more is dedicated to generating lolrandom answers and pulling a win condition out of your ***. The opponent has to pray around dozens of lolrandom outcomes on any turn making it feel like the game is just completely out of their control.
I used to really upset about mill rogues in wild. Something about it would make me quit playing for a bit, and similar mechanics (like Tickatus) also got under my skin.
That said, after reading these forums and seeing what causes other people to write the most ridiculously angry posts, I don’t have nearly as much rage. I happen to really enjoy the things people usually call “clown fiesta” and randomly generating a whole bunch of nonsense. It’s so much fun that I usually don’t even care if I’m winning or losing, and I do plenty of both.
I like playing a lot of other decks too, and murloc Paladin looks fun to me, so of course it’s probably a bad deck with all auto-win cards only for stupid people blah blah blah blah blah…
You only pivoted from cards (post 40) to decks (post 56) AFTER I called you out.
If your terms change in definition to fit your bias, that pretty much proves that their whole point is to insert negative bias with negatively worded terms into decks you don’t like.
EDIT: Post 40 says, “clown fiesta discovery cards”; post 56 says, “clown fiesta deck”. This edit added due to the below post answering something that wasn’t addressed.
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What? I was always talking about scam decks.
Modern Rogue and Mage were called scam decks
Is what I said and explained why thoroughly.
Or are you clinging to me adding “clown fiesta” before discovery cards for good measure? Lmao. When you run 1545415241542 of them answer generators in the deck they sure feel like a clown fiesta. This isn’t a “I got one legendary that summons something when I play a spell in my deck haha” scenario of the olden days.