I was playing ticketus warlock, but I lost against an infinite hadronox-undatakah druid.
Even without infinite undataka, I lost because I couldn’t remove the full board of reborn for more than 3 times.
I’m writing this so you know Ticketus is very beatable even by non aggro decks.
I guess mechatun has a winrate of 99% when played. The point is: how easy is it to play it? How impactful is it when played?
Ticketus in the long game will become relevant, but if you play this on turn 8, while ignoring the 10 damage board of your opponent, I am pretty sure the 5 milled cards won’t make a difference
The counterplay to Polkelt is to shuffle cards in your opponents deck. Tickatus is not good vs Polkelt. Polkelt is a turn 4 play and Tickatus only a turn 8-9 play. You can also play Polkelt in combination with draw to play around.
I won 3 games against Tickatus as Reno Priest because I have already drawn all of my combo cards. Every other game with every other control or combo deck that I played I just lost to 100% after Tickatus was played.
The card literally says: win the game. It is the last card you play. You can’t play it like Tickatus on turn 8. It does not win you games against combo decks. Only against control decks. —> 1 archetype not 2. Cards like Dirty Rat even give you a good chance to counter this card, because he has to hold it the whole time in his hand. Mechatun is also a combo piece. Tickatus does not need a special combo. The powerlevel difference is huge
1- I didn’t say kill them before they can play tickatus. I said make it so they can’t play a “slow” 6 mana corrupted card (so like turn 8 or later) without either dying or effectively dying by being way too behind on board. That’s not a big ask.
2- If the Warlock had time to copy tickatus and play it to the point that it literally burned all your cards, wtf were you doing all game? Hero power passing? Come on guys, you’re better than this.
There is an OR in the argument, meaning he said if you can do the first, it’s all ok. And the entire point of the proposing change is because you can’t win ‘with what you have left’ because if your deck is build around key cards, you lose when it is burned.
Again, there is no problem printing cards that counter Control decks, the problem here is if there is a way to play around it.
Serious, compare something like Rin, where there is a big setup having to play various cards across turns and you hope to burn like 10 cards of your opponent in a complex “win the game” effect with Tickatus with his instant burn effect.
You’d be surprised how many decks can adapt to it or just pressure you into not playing it, I’ve had a shudderwock deck mind control tech and play it back into their hand then clear out my remaining cards, Priests finding it in my deck and playing a corrupted version before me, Rogues copying multiples of it back into their deck, then there’s the times when it just doesn’t show up until it’s of no value, which is frequently. I hope that they leave it as is, currently it’s a decent answer to Rez Priests, but again there’s absolutely no guarantee it’ll show up when you need it.
But isn’t “depends too much on card X” a inerent weakness of a deck?
Aren’t also decks that depend too much on card X or Y the main cause of non games?
If you make this style of strategy possible of target you basically make the game healthier for everyone and not the opposite.
Because now people gonna build decks that have actual outs instead of put everything in one basket to the point where it gonna be over if your opponent pull it off.
One example?
Tortollan mage would not need a nerf if every class had access to that type of tech.
Like I said before:
It’s easy to agree that burn 5 cards per tickatus played is too much.
But it’s also past time for the playerbase get over the fact that milling strategies have their own contribution to make the game better if you allow they to do.
No…? If the opponent can consistently delete your key cards, you will not ‘build decks that have actual outs’, you will simple abandon this deck that use key cards because you have better winrate with aggro or midrange.
If you are playing a Galakrond deck and Blizzard print a “Destroy a hero card in your opponent deck or hand” people will not adapt the deck to ‘have actual outs’, they will simple abandon Galakrond and use another strategy.
The problem is the ’ to the point where it gonna be over if your opponent pull it off’ that they keep printing. They keep printing overpowered cards that end the game when they pull it off and then print a very hard hate cards to literally delete the overpowered cards to ‘balance’ the winrate.
Why not balance the OP cards and stop printing hard-hate cards? One thing is printing a Murloc eating crab, another is “delete all murlocs in your opponent deck”.
I agree this card needs to be changed, it makes Warlock the only viable control deck in the meta. I see loads of these decks now btw, only agro or Evolve Shaman beat it consistently.