Literally as the title says. I think also there are some bugs that need fixing. Specifically, the bugs in upper management constantly putting out garbage and selling it as a card game.
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Iāve never heard of a parasite that required the host to willingly interact with it in order to do anything.
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Donāt forget to make sure you post that bug in the bug forum.
@Mad - those are called symbiotic relationships. Itās like a real thing.
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Allow me to introduce you to some of my exesā¦
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You arenāt thinking about the damaging psychological tricks that promote addiction. Which their lovely little system is designed around
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Any product that is designed to appeal to customers is guilty of that. Donāt pretend that you didnāt just describe 99% of consumer products.
You think there arenāt discussions that go into things like the color schemes used on mac n cheese packaging, to the shapes of deoderant containers, to the visuals in action games specifically to be more appealing to your brain?
Hearthstone has its issues, but when folks evoke the āmental manipulationā shtick like it hasnāt been used for centuries, it comes across as overreaching.
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HS has no soul. Its just a grind with paywalls attached. There is some fun to be had but all their schemes pushes me away. I keep coming back because of the mental addiction though. Itās messed up when you think how this is promoted to kids n such. I have no doubt we will look at these type of video games like we look at cigarettes one day.
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Itās a video game.
If you arenāt enjoying yourself, go do something else.
If you cannot get through your day without logging into something, itās not the game(s) that are the problem, you may have some issues that you yourself need to deal with.
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OMG. I laughed so hard, I feel you bro;)
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Obviously its some part my problem but I donāt think Blizzard is innocent as well. They actively promote this type of behavior in their players. Also this is the one and only game thatās ever made me feel like this. I think that alone says a lot because Iāve been gaming ever since NES. Iād call myself a hard-core gamer. I even worked as QA at Sony for 13 years. Iām not tooting my own horn but I feel my points are valid as Iāve had much experience In the realm of gaming my whole life.
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Addiction is a real thing, but we canāt blame video games for being fun to play and causing dopamine releases anymore than we can blame sweet/fatty foods for being SO DANG DELICIOUS and causing the same dopamine releases for many poeple. McDonalds encourages people to eat their food often.
You donāt call fast food restaurants parasites because you couldnāt stop yourself from running to a drivethru every time you leave the house and got obese, you make different decisions to properly balance your life and do whatās healthy for you.
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I do actually think fast food are parasites as well. Iām just not in the jack in the box forum ya know so Iām not gonna go calling out everyone here. BLIZZARD ARE NOT INNOCENT HERE. These are smart businessmen that know what they are doing.
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I imagine youāre against all forms of marketing as well then, yes? Because all commercials/ads/banners/billboards/articles are designed specifically to catch your attention and suggest the goodness of a product.
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Not at all. Just extremely predatory and anti consumer practices. Iām not just black or white on the subject. I believe in balance. I do my best to view things from both sides. Thatās why Iām so critical of blizzard and have many positive things to say about other companies.
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I was trying to complete the word āexesā¦ā, then I realized that was already the word: exes
@War - youāre making some sweeping statements about addiction and psychological challenges humans face, and then trying to apply your limited logic to it (this is not meant as demeaning or condescending, just blunt).
While it makes sense that if something isnāt fun, then why do it? It also makes sense to think āif it doesnāt hurt anyone, why not do it?ā. Both of these are true and as much as they are false.
Since weāre not all Wardrums or Twyksters (thank goodness for that), our limited viewpoints of what we think are things of necessity, or pleasure, or fun or whatever are not the same for the majority (let alone, everyone else).
Hereās an easy saying that when folks understand it, it makes WAY more sense why we donāt understand the issueā¦ even though we start to:
You canāt just tell a person to not experience depression and tell them itās easy to just āchooseā to be happy; similarly you cannot tell a broken plate to be unbroken.
Iām not an expert, but I am experienced - I could not choose to just be happy; I tried and it almost killed me many times lol (funny, not funny). What I have learned is that, to your point, while we are responsible and accountable for ourselves, the struggle every human faces every day to simply get up and make today āTHE dayā is challenged by the bombarding of social culture, equality and inequality, media, advertising, family, friendsā¦ Those who are close and want to help the most, sometimes cannot. Itās stupid, but itās also just life.
While McDonaldās is not fully at fault (nor is it fully SO DAN DELICIOUS), itās extremelyā¦ EXTREMELY easy to turn to it for a fix to something that would take more time.
Your simple references to highly complex human behaviors indicate you are content with where you are in life. Thatās a very rare trait. Iād say, in my opinion and observation, most people are NOT content. I know Iām not, but itās no longer a negative malcontent - and more of a, I know I can do more and Iām going to tryā¦
but for nowā¦
let me ā¦
you knowā¦
get one more match in. I hope you read this is the way I think itās sounding in my head and not negatively like many seem to read my posts!
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Iām not reading it negatively at all. Humans certainly are complex creatures and while my statement may have come off as generic,
wasnāt really meant to be so. A lot of behavioral issues people run into cannot be solved by demonizing an external item, but by finding the source of that behavior and the underlying psychological knots that must be dealt with in order to achieve actual fulfillment. Iām not in a place today to tap out a full dissertation on the matter (nor would I say Iām as qualified as the therapists with whom I associate) so instead I tend to keep it brief with a shorter message that anyone suffering from that kind of problem should probably search inward for other issues thay must be dealt with.
Life will always be a struggle, moreso for some than others, and vices both wholly impure and innocent but simply easy to imbalance oneself on will always be factors. Targeting those factors is little more than a bandaid and serves, at best, to provide us with a moment of catharsis and perhaps a sense of moral highground, yet fails entirely to help with the issue. Indeed, it can become an issue in and of itself, as one falls into a self-perpetuating cycle of bouncing from one thing to another, falling into problematic behavior cycles, blaming the factor for that behavior, then jumping straight to the next factor.
Sometimes itās an addictive personality. Sometimes itās filling a gap in your life. The reasons can be many but what they share in common is that the solution must often be found within oneself, not by shaking oneās fist at the world around them for being so darn attractive.
I donāt mean to come across callous because Iām really not. What I do mean to do is point out fallacious allegations because they donāt actually solve the problem theyāre meaning to solve.
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I wonder if your quotee understands the words he is speaking.
Dude I know Intro to Psych is a really mind blowing course but take about 75% off the amateur diagnosis dispensation.
Ironic that you point this out in others yet fail to see it in your own actions.
intentional irony or unintended satire?
āBut are you strong enough to point that high-powered perception at yourself? What about it? Why donāt you - why donāt you look at yourself and write down what you see? Or maybe youāre afraid to.ā
You might find you werenāt here to āsolve any problemā, you might want to take a look at your own (inflated) perception of self. Hint: Just cause you see no problem does not mean there isnāt one for others.
You can facetiously pass off addiction targeting methods as marketing if you desire, but that does not diminish the validity of the claims you are overlooking from your pedestal.
Players are angry that addiction has become the obvious tool of choice for blizzard to keep players coming back rather then other, less damaging marketing methods eg: creative design.
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I think hearthstone is still one of the best games out there for casual play, especially for mobile gaming. Probably sucks for newer players who havenāt built a decent collection, but compared to other games itās still one of the best especially while youāre having a struggle in the pooper stall or if youāre eating lunch or dinner.
Also this game is pretty tame when compared to other loot box/gacha games
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