ZackO from VS says this is one of the least skillful metas he has ever seen, and right before worlds…
Like I said before, low skill ceiling meta and the stats objectively confirm this as fact.
No use arguing otherwise.
There is almost no substantial win % increase from Diamond to Higher legend going by the most popular meta decks (i.e Reno) except for Naga DH and Nature Shaman
It’s a casual player’s paradise.
At World Championships we can all hail the winner as the one who drew the good cards more often and better than the rest of the competition.
Great Job Team 5, you have been awful at balancing the game right after a brand new expansion has dropped and the playerbase is utterly sick of the meta already.
Not a good look and especially for the sales department.
Someone’s getting coal in their stocking for Christmas
Why would I be happy to hear from VS, they only confirm what I already knew to be true.
The only other god this forum reveres are the forum regular’s and their groupies who follow them around to worship and upvote their portrait no matter how ignorant or wrong they may be in their opinions.
I don’t know why people keep looking to Hearthstone for this magical skill ceiling they love to go on and on about. There are dozens of better card games if you want a high skill ceiling with interaction and counterplay, and almost all of them have digital clients available in some form.
Yeah, Paladin is busted. It’s not like it being ‘low skill’ is some highlight of this issue, that just makes it sound like people want to pretend Hearthstone is more complex than it is or ever was.
How can i even take this seriously when they don’t acknowledge the existence of Fire Druid? Not to mention listing Naga DH as a top end top meta deck when it’s literally an auto win for half the decks played. Yeah, i’m not listening to them i’ll just keep playing what i like and win with it instead.
I’d wager a big reason many players are hard stuck in bronze is a lack of competitive high quality cards more than anything
Not everyone wants to or can throw money at improving a digital card collection that is subject to the whims of frequent ‘balance’ patches by team 5.
Why they nerfed Paladin a few weeks and then made it viable again?
It’s shady… almost like they just want to waste everyone’s dust and then revert the change so they buy buy buy again only to nerf a 3rd time after world’s to maximize angst and lost value
It’s not a good look tbh, I personally won’t be spending more money till they get a grip and actually make the game state better.
Why spend money or loads of time to collect cards that you’ll never play because other cards are so much better that they make everything else look like trash…?
Honestly the Bronze free to play players are the only winners here right now imo
This game doesn’t require skill while ploting the deck. maybe while crafting.
What this game requires is attention and information.
I will give an example
People at low ranks are not able to progress because they don’t know what their opponent decks are running. knowing that and taking step according to information is not a skill.
Other thing is the attention. I will give an example for it beside missing lethal miss menaging resources etc.
I am playing rogue wishing well. if rogue goes second rogue can get 5 coins. I use 2 coins before wishing well and 3 coins after playing wishin well. so I can no longer generate coins. But the guy didn’t give any attention to that so he prioritize destroying wishing well wasting his resources because he didn’t give enough attention to it. So this is not a skill either.
The game doesn’t require that much skill to begin with. But the meta currently doesn’t punish enough for having lack of attention and information.
Pure paladin and dragon druid are basically what people would call as “braindead”.
Highlander decks are average at best. Some slighty above and some slighty lower.
And then you have stuff like rainbow mage that isn’t really THAT skill intensive but atleast demmands something.
In other words even at the high end of skill intensive decks this meta don’t really require much.
That’s not true at all I’ve seen games in platinum with meta decks full of legendaries being played so dumb it’s definitely a skill issue more then lack of cards.
You can have stupid powerlevels with cards that require thinking. It requires exactly the same effort as design meaningfull on lower powerlevel.
What is happening is lack of effort.
Also paladin powerlevel is a exactly simpton of that :
The old on board stuff is merging with recent cards meant to be more flexible creating a monster that while isn’t skill intensive at all has more ins and outs than paladin is used to.
Sincerely?
Burn the pure paladin archtype in fire or just early rotate.
The cards aren’t necessarily broken but have no place in it’s new era.
That way people can enjoy stuff like prismatic beam without getting everything nerf as price.
From there we can look to weaker stuff like dragon golem from druid and get it nerf too.
Do you believe him to be wrong? Almost all the meta decks right now have a very linear game plan and don’t deviate from it much if at all. Everything has a powerful swing turn or game ending combo and almost all of it’s telegraphed. Dragon druid wants to ramp and buff up dragon golem then blow you out in a single turn. Odyn warrior wants to delete the opponents minions, play odyn, then OTK with armor cards. Paladin just plays dumb unreasonably high piles of stats for the mana cost. Plague DK shuffles plagues. Cleave hunter buffs up stonebound gargon and attempts to OTK with ABJ. Blackrock N Roll warrior wants to play Blackrock on 4 and then play overstatted fatties each turn. Reno decks want to play reno on curve, and shaman wants to play holliday on 5. There are very few decks where the gameplan isn’t “do one thing and hope you power spike first”.
There are far too many cards to even remember what is in my own deck, aint no way I can be expected to know what someone else’s deck might contain. I dont even know what your example of :
is even talking about. so yeah i suppose you got a point but all the attention I can give wont allow me to memorize mine or anyone elses decks.
