I know I complain alot, but I don’t believe my complaints are unjustified.
I just played a Garotte Rogue that played nothing on board until turn ten and then otk’d me.
I also faced a Quest Hunter that did nothing but spam spells until lethal.
But; I clearly remember this Forum screaming about how uninteractive spell mage was, and wanting Team 5 to nerf the deck, (which they did).
So; apologies in advance, but the Forum members who give no complaints about these decks need to take a good look at their past remarks before coming for me.
Because these decks perform in an extraordinarily similar way to how spell mage did .
They do nothing but damage from hand until they have lethal.
I have yet to see the mage minion deck that everyone thinks
might be immune to nerfs.
I guarantee it won’t be. It doesn’t matter what mage has or how it wins.
If it is powerful it will be nerfed, period.
There are at least four decks in other classes right now that are running strategies that were nerfed or removed in mage without anyone here having a problem.
Team 5 only responds to knee jerk complainers who single mage out as the class that cannot be alowed to be powerful with any strategy while other classes get a pass for the same behaviors.
Again: If this thread bothers you? Apologies.
I think it’s accurate.
After eight years of double speaking apologists trying to explain why mage must be killed, but others can have the same playstyle and its fine, I think I can say with confidence that this game is biased at best, and critically flawed otherwise.
Can’t wait to see the new decks…
I sensed a lot of negativity in the post so i didn’t finish reading it
Aggregate playrate heavily plays into some decks getting nerfed. Quest Hunter (probably just as offensive as Quest Mage) never saw the popularity that Mage did, therefore its effect on the overall meta hasn’t been the same.
You know that though, because it gets explained to you every time you say this.
I don’t care. If playstyle is the reasoning for players whining until mages are killed, then that argument should be valid no matter the class.
But; you know that because I say it every time you try and lecture me.
Well, there’s some legitimate reason for that.
Because mage is insanely popular if a deck is even ok, it has insane playrates on ladder even if the matchup spread and winrate don’t justify the playrate.
So when a mage deck has a slightly toxic play style it gets judged much more heavily compared to other classes because it will be played so much more than other classes with even slight success.
TLDR: Yes, devs are biased against mage and the class is judged to a different standard, but there is a legitimate reason for doing so. Even if I don’t personally like it, I get it from the perspective of the devs.
So you have a few issues, I am gonna mention a few things that might help you from my PoV if you will.
1.) What you read in this forum is never gonna be something to take to heart if you will. I understand when you’re around a lot of familiar people, attachments happen. An what they might say about certain class or cards, is just gonna be based on feelings. It might have you attach certain attitudes towards these people from hearing them say something about Mage. I’d try to just listen, an let it breeze through the forums. You have to understand when just to read, an not comment on anything you think deserves a rhetoric response.
2.) Is just a matter of popularity. Mage is a popular class, it has been a fun class. An everyone under the sun plays Mage. The game is at a point where it’s not able to boost anyone to play many different classes. You will always, an I means ALWAYS spot complaints when people start to see the same class over an over an over an over. You love Mage, so you see the effects of the negative remarks on the class easily. Think for a moment now of allllllll the comments when another class was doing something dumb an popular… See what I mean? One day it’s Pirate Warriors, another day it’s Druid, now it’s Rogue. They all get treated the same.
An my final offering point for number 3.) This ideology of Mage doing these specific things, an now sorta seeing another class do the same needs to stop. Shuffling around deck mechanics isn’t a thing only Mage has had happen. I ask myself if I really wanna argue this with you when you bring it up, since I could in essence defend Warlock quite well but I don’t want to Mallenroh.
If I had a wish for you, it’d be to allow you to just stop making Mage the hill you wanna die on. It’s been a great class, it is going to continue to be a loved class. But don’t make it your end all be all.
Being funny, I laugh at murlocs in Warlock but I couldn’t be happier for the class for example. Not because I am a murloc lover at all, but because murlocs are usually very good. They get great support like doofy pirates. So at least Warlock will have a good deck because that tribe gets a lot of support. When in reality Warlock should be doing things with demons, we have the dumb “demon hunters” hogging all the demon an fel cards lol.
Just get to a point where you can laugh at what your class ends up doing for an expansion, an let that be what you enjoy from each expansion. Cause the day an age of always doing the same style isn’t what this game was made for. Just some words of wisdom to share with you chief.
Well pardon me if I don’t get it from this forum.
The decks play so similar as to be indistiguishable.
Yes, but the amount you see of them is vastly different, quest mage was quite literally half of ladder, even at the peak of quest hunter it doesn’t get anywhere close to that.
It seems to be rising in popularity recently so I would expect (especially with some of the cards they are getting) quest hunter will be nerfed shortly.
You mean kinda like Druid now and for the past few months? Oh wait; I’m sure that’s different too, right?
Like I said: Hypocrisy. Plain and simple, both from the Forum and the devs.
Quest Mage had the same popularity for just as long before eventually getting a worthy nerf. (note: i dont think it needed a nerf AT THAT time, it came 2 months too late)
You are blinded by your bias, you really are.
and you are apologizing for hypocrisy. you really are.
No, you just cant see past your (mage) nose.
Its not treated any differently.
It was allowed high play rate for months as well, until the miniset actually dropped it.
You are so set in your views you ignore reality.
Right. because garrotte rogue plays so differently than mage did and so does Quest Hunter.
And Druid is so different in terms of playrates.
Neither has QL Mage play rate.
And has had just as long at that play rate as QL Mage had.
Seriously, look at it from an unbiased view for a change.
Druid being 20% of the meta for a couple of months is absolutely no different to Mage doing it.
Which druid? Mage shoved billions of the same decks so often down every other players throats and expect not to get nerfed. At least with druid they are not all the same deck. Thief rogue took some time before it started to rise to high play rates and than got nerfed 1 or 2 weeks after it’s play rate soared. Just like mage because of that got nerfed and you now rarely see that deck. Can’t say there was much hypocrisy in that.
Except that mage got murdered while Druid got explained as being different.
Bruh not long ago they buffed several mage cards. The whole idea that they specifically hate mage is absurd and you really need to find a new act cause this is getting old.
I will bet money right now that if mage has a winning deck that it will get nerfed in less than two months.
Everyone here knows I’m right.
Don’t bother risking your wallet.
Minions/no minions it does not matter.
Playrates only matter when its mage. Confirmed.
Uninteractive only matters when it’s mage. Confirmed.
How is what I’m saying “mansplaining”?
How is it doublespeak?
You’re omitting an entire variable in the equation, then calling hypocrisy.