This expansion is the worst, ever

In terms of Unbalanced and cards that are UNFUN to play against, this set certainly ranks #1 in all of the previous expansions. a 6 mana 10/10 rush that makes your opponent burn a card? A 5 mana card that Swaps decks with your opponent with no way of you swapping back unless you have that card too? What is the Dev team even thinking???

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“that card”? you mean any card in a long list of cards able to remove or silence tony ?
the word is “those cards” not “that card”

I think they said “that card” assuming playing it again will swap them back, it does not !

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If this is the most UNFUN expansion you ever played, then don’t worry, the next ones will be better. And if they won’t be, then this isn’t the most UNFUN expansion you ever played.

If you kill or silence Tony, the decks will swap back. However, you can’t swap your deck back by playing Tony. It’s not coded to work like that.

Maybe “How to make the game more addictive?”

So far I haven’t seen any turn 2 12/12s or turn 4 scourges. While theres still some residual mana cheat from past sets this expansion, it seems like people can actually play hearthstone rather than casinostone where games are out of reach on turn 4 due to high roll. That to me makes this expansion far better than the ‘nongame’ crap that we had a few weeks ago

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Nah stormwind was worse, so my cycle is broken. Ha

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Not by a longshot. The worst meta was easily Karazhan.

Warrior wasn’t garbage in that meta, so, no. That was decent. I mean, barnes was toxic as hell, but it was honestly fun to use so whatever.

The worst meta was Knights of the Frozen Throne. Nothing beats how horrible it was to fight Shadowreaper Anduin hero powering you for 2 to the face for 0 mana after every spell he cast.

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If warrior not being garbage is the sole criteria of a decent meta then I bet you loved Mean Streets.

Stormwind was my least played meta since I started playing in Journey to Un’Goro. I HATED the Questlines (especially Warlock).

Un’Goro was such a great meta, you really got into the game during one of its highest points. It took so long for that meta to finally settle. I think it was at least three weeks before someone figured out silence priest was actually viable, and two whole months before evolve shaman finally made its mark? It’s pretty cool when a meta keeps evolving for that long, it keeps the game fresh in a way that feels organic and unforced.

Usually the meta reaches a solved state a lot quicker than that.

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The zenith. Before it all began to turn to poo.

Jade Druid ruined that xpac for a long time until people started running that one minion that destroyed 1 cost spells in decks. Warrior had room for it, so it was great. Every class had good options, so it was pretty balanced to be honest.

The worst? No way.

A lot worse than I was hoping it was going to be? Definitely. They tried way too hard to keep a bunch of degenerate crap alive. Just let it die.

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Nah, there have been fun metas since then. And there have been broken expansions before it.

I know you like to beat the drum about what Brode has said about class balance in HS, but the HS meta has never actually been balanced. Hell, Undertaker Hunter is an easy candidate for most broken deck in the history of the game, and that was all the way back in Naxramas. The game wasn’t balanced during the Brode era either.

A CCG is a closed system, some cards will always be better than others, some classes will always have more of the better cards than other classes, and a user base the size of Hearthstones will almost always figure out what the best cards are and which classes have the most of them fairly quickly. It’s an inevitability. And after that players will figure out decklists that counter the current best decks.

Sometimes, if a meta remains in the same solved state for too long and it starts to get stale, Then some nerfs and buffs might be needed to freshen things up. It’s better when, like in Un’Goro, it takes longer to solve the game. But that doesn’t always happen.

I just think two weeks is too soon to see how things will truly settle. Sometimes decks that feel broken and oppressive at the beginning of an expac cycle turn out to be not as good once players have time to figure out what counters them.

I would agree with this. But it has been loads better than what passes for balance today.

Once again, were less than two weeks into the expac. We don’t even know what the settled meta will look like.

There isn’t some unicorn deck that makes the decks that have been dominant for months and months go down in winrate.

There might be other, just as broken decks which play mana cheat and win the game by turn 5. (And there are: Totem Shaman for example) and maybe those supplant the current top decks.

But it’s really just more of the same.

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“Wait for the meta to settle” is nothing more than a thinly veiled appeal to ignorance. Not even the definite claim that the meta might change, just a weak utterance that we can’t know for sure it won’t. Spoiler: it won’t. The meta is more or less solved.

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Not clear which bracket you are playing in, but non games are far more prevalent this expansion than before rotation. Typically they become non games around turn 4 or 5 when one side floods the board with 5/5, and a bunch of other minions.

The means by which non games occur has changed, yes, but they occur much more frequently than before expansion.