Are people already autoconceding to thief rogue? I love muh thief rogue and play it most matches. I’m already finding people leaving instantly in casual. Anyone else notice this? Also, what are some classes, if any, you’ll autoconcede when placed against?
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If you don’t run weapon removal but have a long game plan might as well concede, kingsbane wasn’t fun and the weapon is kingsbane 2.0
I don’t get why not everyone is running weapon removal. Some decks don’t carry weapons but the big hitters right now do.
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There’s a billion rogues on ladder right now.
Makes me wonder why… I played that deck for like an hour and was bored to tears. I have no clue what the draw is.
Whatever, I’ll just keep farming them with my “no new cards” Control Warrior.
I play warrior. So it doesn’t matter if I run weapon removal. Because if the rogue gets boom, then Tess is infinite weapon, and infinite deck.
And no I don’t run bomb warrior. I run dragon mech to tank and fatigue the heck out of bomb warrior.
It’s isn’t Kingsbane 2.0
Kingsbane required your deck to be built specifically around buffing your weapon and bouncing those minions to keep buffing the weapon throughout the game. And then just surviving to the late to get the most out of said weapon. It also could not be removed. That’s a huge deal.
Extremely linnier play style where your game plan each game was to
A. Find KB
B. Buff KB
C. Survive long enough and eventually win because they can’t destroy your weapon.
Cutlass requires your deck to be built around a RNG mechanic, making each game feel different. Nothing is guaranteed. On top of that you can destroy Cutlass
It’s a completely fair card and the deck is just as fair because of the variance and RNG.
KB shouldn’t of ever been created and Cutlass should of been KB in the first place
“Deck is totally fair”
I wonder how many people said that before their deck was nerfed.
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How is the deck unfair?
If you couldn’t remove Cutlass then yeah it would be un fair but you can do where is the unfairness coming from??
The RNG aspect? While I can agree that sometimes you get screwed, probably about as much as the Rogue draws rubbish.
That isn’t a problem in Theif Rogue that’s just an aspect in all CCG, RNG will do what RNG wants
I would think they are quitting due to tempo rogue being pretty sick atm, and it kinda ruins the fun of people experimenting.
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All I know is so far (no exact numbers but I’ve played a lot of matches), according to myreplay, im maintaining an average of a little above 53 to 54% win rate. But I’ve also seemed wildly lucky since this expansion started. Guaranteed it’s not the same for other thief rogue players.
I don’t run AE rogue but the weapon is vulnerable to weapon removal (2x Ooze, 1x Harrison in Standard right now). Between bomb warrior, rogue, and the occasional Hunter or Paladin it is smart right now to run 2 of the three imho unless you don’t plan to be playing a long game.
Whether the deck is fair or not is how you feel about Academic Espionage, the 3/4 w/ Rush for 2-mana, and Vendetta… not the weapon as the weapon can be tech’d for fairly decently.
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Right but the rogue can get the weapon back if you play against hunter, warrior or shaman. Which those 3 classes have a place in this meta.
And I’d love to see someone harrison a weapon with 10 charges.
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Kripp calls Thief Rogue a trash deck and I agree.
Just faced the old AE Spectral Cutlass Rogue.
Thanks RNG for handing me both Spectral Cutlass Weapons in under 8 cards. Who needs a shiny finder?
Lets see Rogue steals what? Ah yes, it gets its free legendary at the top.
Al’Akir the Windlord! Can you say GG have a Divine Shield, Windfury, Taunt vs Murlocs early? And if thats not enough her tis you flametongue totem, here is you deal 5 damage card for 1 which was perfect for the 5 health minion I could use to turn the tide maybe.
But the today and every day kick and the crotch RNG move.
Yes yes, its turn 9 so you know what that means!
Tess Greymane! So a second Al’Akir, etc and here is another RNG joke
Deal FIVE DAMAGE. Could be to ANYTHING! Could be his minion, could be me, could be HIM and I would WIN. Nope - shoots another one of my minions.
So like Kripp says. Most tilting trash deck as the is no skill to this thing. Just drop cards and what the RNG ridiculous no skill magic happen.
So every deck needs to carry a Acidic Swamps Oozes just cause.
The only problem I see is everyone will just flock from bomb warrior and thief rogue to other aggro decks like token druid. Then we’ll all talk about how ridiculous token druid is when it gets a good draw. So people will drop the oozes for more aggro or control. When that happens thief rogue will come back and everyone will be complaining again. Thief rogue is fun but on ladder it’s junk unless you play A LOT! And even then you need luck on your side. It’s early. Let the meta evolve.
I’ve played thief/burgle rogue for a couple expansions now… even if it really hasn’t been any good until now.
The draw for me, is that every game is totally different. You can play against a bomb warrior 3 times in a row but not one of those games will be even close to the same.
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When you have prep, zero mana removals and quite healthy drops it’s almost imposible for most curent standard decks to chalenge you tempowise, so it makes sense if people don’t wanna waste their time trying, in casual especialy.
Having to run 2 Oozes in any late game deck just for Thief Rogue is very annoying.
Tak Nozwhisker and Preperation spell + Academic Espionage is too good.
The real problem with Thief Rogue is the power it has vs different classes because of the difference in each classes cards.
You can play Thief Rogue vs a Warrior and steal a lot of useless weapons and trash cards or low cost low value Priest Spells. Mages and Warlocks have some good stuff to steal that make easy wins. Thief Rogue vs other Rogue Steals nothing OMEGALUL.
They should rework Thief Rogue to steal from any of the 9 classes
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It is the RNG… I mean the Bomb Warrior stuff pretty much plays itself. I mean anyone can just netdeck the best percentage deck to play.
It’s weird how people seem to constantly focus on the weaker archetypes. Cutlass/tess rogue decks are at best 3rd for rogues. The tempo thief (no cutlass/tess) is much better. Myra’s chef (and/or toggawaggle) decks are much better.
If some1 autoconcedes because they don’t like cutlass rogues, then that’s really weird, since I’ve been playing against rogues only yesterday (rank6->4) and not a single one of them had a cutlass.
It can be made to work somewhat and is not as completely trash as pogo rogue, but it’s not great.
P.S. Ooze has pretty bad winrate (even 1 copy) in tempo rogue decks (the only ones I checked), so weapon removal currently is not good value. The only actually played weapon that’s really good to remove is the supercollider, but that one is only found in control warriors.