previously, in hearthstone: So Rogue has a quest. It’s not played much anymore, but the synergy was to have cards in their hand from another class. How were those cards acquired? one card discovered a card off the opponents class, another card discovered a spell from a random class. Was it broken? not really. It fit Rogue though.
The problem now is Priest has cards that discover from your hand or other cards that discover from your deck. is it broken? yes. Priest has it’s own value within it’s own class. So now they value off the other persons deck. The matches already take 30 min and now we’re punished into them winning using cards we run. Galrakrond generates them infinite value and also somehow generating minions who also invoke (broken).
The fact Priest wasn’t touched this nerf cycle is broken and has made me lose faith in Blizzard with hearthstone.
Pretty sure Rogue also has “it’s own value within it’s own class” too. Arguably, Rogues have a much better Basic/Classic set than Priests, so if anything, Rogues are the class that shouldn’t go around getting extra value from other classes.
They rarely do. If you’re having constant 30 minute games against Priest, it’s probably becaus you’re playing as another Priest. Or you’re the rare Control Warrior/Warlock, I guess?
Assuming your cards are useful at all. Do you know how many times I’ve gotten a Blazing Battlemage off a DH or Acidic Swamp Ooze out of a Mage? A lot more times than I’ve gotten something useful like a Solarian or a Galakrond. You, on the other hand, always have your own win conditions available in your deck.
Outvaluing the opponent is literally all Priests can do. If you take that away, you put the class back into the trash tier it was at the beginning of last year’s rotation. I get that that’s a popular idea among some people, but if it’s all the same to you, I like my classes to be viable. Feel free to play Hunter if Priests bother you so much.
Yes, the mediocre Tier 3 class that sometimes breaks into the bottom of Tier 2 needed nerfs. Good thinking there. We can’t have a Priest deck with a positive winrate, what is this, Wild?
Stealing cards from the deck has been a Priest thing since the beggining something that indeed flavor-wise should be a rogue thing and priests given that the’re supposed to manipulate the mind and thoughts of their opponents should be the ones generating from the class pool of cards.
I would argue that not so much since the nerfs (cold blood, blade flurry and preparation) and HoFing of some strong cards (conceal comes to mind) and the rework that was done on priest, no AOE is kynda hard to work with.
Maybe. But Thief Rogue used to be limited to the opponents’ class before RoS, and that made Rogue vs. Rogue matchups very difficult for the player running the Thief Rogue deck. Switching roles so that Priest gets random cards from the class and Rogue gets them from a player’s deck would nerf both Priest and a Rogue archetype that isn’t doing great right now. Seems like a pretty bad idea to me.
Even after the rework, the Rogue set is better. Backstab, Eviscerate, SI:7 Agent, Edwin, Shadowstep, are all strong cards run in most (if not all) Rogue decks. Even post-rework, Priest cards are situational enough that they don’t always fit in a deck. Shadow Word: Death is probably the most commonly run one, but nothing else comes close. Out of the reworked cards, Thoughtsteal is popular in Highlander/Galakrond decks but not in Resurrect (for obvious reasons). Even Holy Nova, which was generally considered one of the better cards post-rework, isn’t run in a lot of Galakrond Priest decks.
The difference is that Rogue gets synergy cards like the quest, Vendetta and the rush Totem Golem whereas Priest gets no extra benefit from " stealing" cards (you don’t actually steal cards, you get copies of them, imagine the salt if Priest did actually steal the cards!).
Stealing cards isn’t the greatest strategy, but as Priest has almost no card draw they need to get extra cards wherever they can!
Priest has always had cards in its Classic set that copy from their opponent’s deck. This is nothing new.
It’s also outperformed by several other classes, with the classes that are getting needed being some of the worst matchups for Rogue and Mage, who will continue to best Priest.