Its one thing to give feedback, its another to frame that feedback in a condescending manner. You come off as a Jason Hervey’s character from Pee Wee’s Big Adventure in the way you talk down to others and call it “accurate feedback.”
You are reading the condescension into it because it irritates you to get direct feedback, not because that’s what I did or do.
And I know how much you love to call it punching down, but it’s not. It’s plain language and people should take feedback (or don’t) instead of clutching their pearls and whinging.
Dude, what an obscure and obtuse reference. I have no idea what actor that is or what character you refer to. Maybe you can update your parlance to include movies that are less than forty years old?
You really come off like W. Earl Brown’s character in Something About Mary even though you probably think you’re more like his character in Deadwood.
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Having seen neither of those that reference isnt landing for me, unfortunately.
For your benefit, here’s how you come across. The words may be plain to you but they dont read that way. They read like this character’s delivery.
https://youtu.be/zZDdQWeNmL8?si=oyTrxsvTU0LMqU4i
Also, feedback tends to be constructive, beneficial info to impart, not a smug and arrogant backhanded claim of someone lacking a skill you posess.
That is your interpretation because you have your own personal issues.
I was straight to the point and succinct, but apparently I need to talk like Mr. Rogers or Bluey to help you?
Again, your issue is maturity, not my feedback.
We have an issue with being talked down to by people who know nothing about us.
For example: you know NOTHING about my skill in the game: you shouted “skill issue”.
Maybe realize NOTHING will change about yourself if you are better or worse than whoever you talk to; maybe it’s BETTER for you to not assume the worst of others; maybe they have something to teach you (I know: what a terrible thing to say and how insulting to you!).
Mature people dont talk down to others and express their superiority by claiming “skill issue” in a clearly passive aggressive way. It isnt my maturity that is the issue here, I can see plainly and clearly the words you choose to use in the order you choose them to be. Your willful suspension of disbelief that others can read them in the way they do is your own maturity issue. Your interpretation of your words means that you are never wrong. Imagine that, isnt that convenient for you? But communication isnt a 1 way street, if you are getting the wrong interpretation of your words once with one person, maybe it was that other person’s issue. But when its happening with multiple people over a long stretch of time, it is time to accept that it is your issue with the delivery and choice of words you use and not everyone else thats to blame.
The saying goes: "If you run into one ***hole in a day, perhaps they were the ***hole. If everyone you run into in a day is an ***hole, then maybe its you and not everyone else.
I rarely have seen such smugness and arrogance explicit from anyone else on the forums outside of you. Most are quite friendly and helpful. Most share their knowledge without ever taking the opportunity to go for low hanging fruit such as making claims of skill issues to put down another person. Its completely unnecessary and not helpful to anyone but yourself as it boosts your own sense of superiority and belittles others.
Mr Rogers would be the first to tell you your words are a reflection of yourself and the way you see others. I think everyone would be better people if they could conduct themselves in a way Mr Rogers would take no objection to. I dont mean to be squeeky clean and toddler friendly, but just not being a smug and arrogant person with your words would be a good line in the sand to have drawn for yourself.
I came in agreeing with your assessment of how to approach the brawl. I only disagreed with your choice to belittle by going about it with the clearly toxic meme of “skill issue”. I was in support of your point and yet even when someone disagrees with your delivery of said point you make it into a bigger issue than it ever needed to be by constantly making everything you said not to be a fault of your own but others. Its as if you are incapable of being wrong about anything. That is a maturity issue if Ive ever encountered one.
Except you told us in your op, but you didn’t realize it.
I mean, this is true. I’ve learned a great deal from people here.
Everyday I think I’ve read the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen on the internet and every day there are more posts like this thread.
I didn’t talk down to you, Cramer. I very honestly told you that the issue is yours.
You are using the term “passive aggressive” incorrectly.
I’ve not said I am superior to anyone here, you’ve decided that yourself.
I did clearly say that the deficit is one that is rectified by increased skill, that’s a factual statement.
If that statement bothers you, that’s your lack of maturity in that you’re unable to receive direct feedback.
This is more of you projecting your issues into the world. I’ve never said I’m never wrong here or elsewhere.
Keep telling yourself this. It’s not true, but I know it makes you feel better.
Most people ignore you, Cramer. They don’t even bother to talk to you because the minute they ask you to learn something you insult people for “punching down” and what not.
And go read your words. You’re not nice. You’re rude.
There it is again. The fact is it’s a skill issue. Calling it that isn’t being toxic or rude.
People don’t tell you when you’re not performing in your life? If that’s true, it explains a great deal about this discussion.
I know the op wanted to rag on blizzard, and I’m down for that when it’s warranted, but this isn’t a blizzard problem.
Bro, everyone here knows about your skill in the game. You talk about your progress (or rather, lack of it) on a daily basis. Just because you were banned or afk for a few months doesn’t mean we’ll forget all of that.
Just sayin’.
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So your true purpose here according TO YOUR OWN ANNOUNCEMENT on the quoted above, is to feel better about yourself because you somehow feel your are smarter than “the dumb people”.
Let’s assume for a moment that we are dumb; let’s assume you are smarter as you think; that doesn’t follow because smart people don’t waste their time.
You know nothing important. What did you know: a rank? It’s not smart to assume you know the quality of people by just knowing their rank; they might be playing for 10 minutes a day; just like the person above: it doesn’t follow if you say you’re smart and then do that.
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Not just that. From your own words from before, I know:
- your rank (hardstuck diamond v-i)
- I know that you’re afraid of losing so you don’t play enough
- I know your ego is fragile/you have traumas from people in your life, so you see threats/mockery everywhere
- I know you’re analytical, probably self-taught
- You find the motivation to learn from your “I’m not smart enough” complex, probably also caused by people in your life who bullied you
I don’t. Luckily, I know much more than just your rank, from your own posts and from my analysis. Also, I haven’t even mentioned me being smart or anyone else not being smart. Being smart is NOT constantly on my mind, because I don’t have a deep wound in my head nagging that I’m not smart enough.
Just relax, bro.
P.S. Also, you should definitely start playing more - since the MMR change from 2 patches ago, many hardstuck diamonds hit Legend for the first time. That path has now been made a bit easier (don’t know how much, though)
No even true; I was Legend in July; I did it with only 1 potential game played per day. That’s actually a good opportunity to mention how dumb it is to judge people by their rank; some people play extremely little and go to Legend; I admire those more than someone playing all day because the rank-bottoms will make it inevitable to go Legend even with bad gameplay and <50% total win rate.
Basically PROJECTION galore; you personally attack people as “fragile” when you were the one who …personally attacked them before you said they are “fragile”; this is typical bullying behavior by the way and you should look into it because it’s really a waste and since it’s a waste of time for myself to deal with it this is the last time I’m talking to you if you’re going again to attempt to bully me.
Oh my bad, I missed that part. I’m glad you made it!
I don’t judge people, period. Like, ever. Even if I say something, it’s not a judgement, it’s trying to explain my point of view on something to maybe help them (or both of us) learn something new.
It’s not (only) my fault that some people don’t see that. It’s their traumas or similarly sounding people from their real life who pass judgements and act in a toxic way out of their own issues, who might make you feel that way. But it really isn’t that way.
There’s literally nothing to admire people for. It’s a game.
See, that’s just it. You just proved my point:
See?
Ask anyone you want on this forum to tell you if my last post was an “attack” on you, and see what they say. I wasn’t attacking you, nor I see why I would. I was simply answering to your reply with my observations.
It’s YOU who finds everything people say to you insulting. That’s your burden to bear in this life. Not mine.
Yeah, like I got nothing better to do but to bully an already bullied random person
Dude, as always, I was just trying to help, take it or leave it.
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I’m speechless xD Kk, maybe it’s better for both of us to keep ignoring each other.
Cheers!
That exposes further your behavior here which is identical on that aspect with the above person you support. You come here PREDETERMINED to admire nobody; you are “already complete” at everything; you are here because you think you have nothing to learn from others.
The first person who is harmed by this is you; you are wasting your time; you are determined to learn nothing since you admire nobody and you have the delusion that you are the only one who can teach.
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Thank you for wise words 
You’re right.
It’s completely a filler and a waste of time to put labels to others on their personal qualities. E.g. there are whole books written here about the hypothetical “psychological problems” I have; you have no professional qualifications to judge anybody on “psychological issues”; IF YOU DID HAVE the professional qualifications to judge them you would be a BAD psychotherapist since you would hand out diagnoses over text on the internet which is MALPRACTICE(and it’s malpractice because it’s bad science and a bad diagnosis because you know approximately nothing over internet text).
Just talk about the game; learn about the game; don’t judge the psychologies of others as if you we were given 4 PhDs on psychotherapy and you’re determined to lose your license by malpracticing.
and then…
followed by
How is this supposed to not showcase how superior you think yourself to be? How does it not show you talking down to/about others?
Again, its convenient that you cannot accept any fault you might even possess a fraction of, its all everyone else’s faults for their understanding of the words you use. Cant ever possibly admit any responsibility for your own words. You dont even have to admit any wrongdoing at all, just at a minimum that your words may not have been the best ones to use to convey your point. Just any amount of humility would show maturity on your part.
I am friends with quite a number of folk from here on the forums and play with them occasionally too. The only person I think of that talks down to anyone round here is you and the worst clone. Otherwise everyone here tends to be helpful and generous and respectable and civil and no one seems to have any common thread issue of being seen a “superior” to others with their choice of words other than you. Every single thread you pop into you have to address how much better you are than others at the game and when you talk down to anyone you use the toxic phrases such as “skill issue” and “google it” and other unhelpful things.
Had you only expressed the point of how you logically made your decisions while knowing nothing of the brawl, your point would have been made, your criticism of their approach would have been made evident, and your helpfulness would have been found appraciated. However you HAD to follow up with the low hanging fruit of talking down to the OP by claiming its a skill issue. You can feel free to think thats not talking down, but you would be wrong. There’s no shame in accepting when you are wrong, I do it all the time and get corrected on stuff all the time. But you are unable to, or unwilling to. Either way, it wasnt necessary to add the skill issue to the end, that was what I disagreed with you about. You can feel free to disagree all you like, but a mature person would accept that when at least 2 people had the same understanding of their words that maybe yu could have picked a better way to go about saying it. If you cant even do that, then I dont understand how you can ever improve yourself as you see yourself as perfect apparently.
This is your projection. I didn’t say how anything makes me feel or my interpretation of events.
I said very clearly that people post increasingly stupid things here, but I didn’t say all people or all threads. I didn’t say if I feel smug superiority or fear for the future of humanity from all the stupid.
You feel inferior and you’re projecting the source of those feelings to people who called you out for your lack of knowledge, not your own sense of esteem.
Amazing how you and I see the same things, but we’re obviously the problem here, lol.
Wasn’t directed at you, though. Look at the quote.
I consider myself highly average. Basic as brown.
That still means half the world is dumber.
I did that. You called me out anyway.
You need to grow up.
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That vomit of personal attacks is pure hypocrisy. The 1st thing you said in this thread is to tell me to “go play candy crush” because I dared to say it’s bad gameplay design to require your gamers to google first before they even start playing.
If you want to gain any respect around here return on topic and prove to us why it’s good gameplay design to require your gamers to google before their 1st game without a vomit of “go play candy crush” or “skill issue”.
And you conveniently leave out the fact that you said additional and unnecessary things that warranted the calling out. If only you’d done only what you quoted of me, then there wouldnt have been a call out needed. For someone so obsessed with maturity and growing up, you seem to very keen on omitting the inconvenient things that you said that deserve the call out. Thats the kind of thing I expect of a middleschool aged person. If anyone has shown the need to grow up its the one constantly belittling people left and right in this thread (and many other threads too).
Sure, man. I know you’re allergic to facts, so I won’t make you endure more.
And I stand by that. If you’re too lazy to learn how to play the game, then it’s not the right game. Blaming designers because the game isn’t 100% self explanatory is hilarious.
If that’s what you need, then candy crush should be your jam.
I can’t imagine caring about what people on an anonymous internet forum think about me, lol.
As I told you, I didn’t need to do this because I know how to play the game.
If you think it’s wrong for the game to be complex or require some form of study to be proficient, then that’s a you thing.
It wasn’t and isn’t needed, but you feel like you need to because you’re actually:
I mean, that’s the level of your discourse, so I’m just putting it in terms you understand, but now you tell me you want Pre-K level?
There’s only two of you. That’s not a plurality of the forum.
It’s also just happens that you’re both wrong and need the reminder.
I love how you can’t remember anything in one thread and now you’re suddenly the supreme authority on forum conduct, lol. It’s almost like your whole persona here is a troll act, Cramer.
Get over yourself and grow up.
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