Some of the new trinkets are absolutely horrible. Even bad players already realize they are bad surely blizzard must see.
Why make a trinket noone will ever pick,just to dilute the pool? Thats so dumb.
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people are allowed to just have fun, you dont have to like it
sucks to be you
Which ones are âBadâ?
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All of them kinda. They seem to have been toned down significantly when compared to the first set of trinkets. Some of them offer a very small bonus while there is still virtually autowin trinkets on the first tier.
-Discover a Deathrattle minion. Your first Deathrattle each combat triggers an extra time.
Its 4 gold. 4 gold for a single minion which will be tier 3 the moment you discover.
-elctro device. I dont think this is good. Its 1 minion,the effect only applies to magnetics. Compare this to 1 minion every turn for some of the other tribes.
-marine signet. Like wut? Why would anyone ever pick this i dont understand. You pay 3 gold. And then 16 gold worth of minions later you get a random tier 1 spell. And another 16 gold worth of minions later you get a ranom tier 2 spell. Like how?? How can this ever pass as âoh that will be nice for a player to discoverâ. Its just trolling. Sure you can think of a situation where this will be amazing (though that would be quiet an achievement tbh) but in general when picking your first trinket. What situation would make you think âoh this is great for meâ.
I wont go through all of them but here.
-the eye of sargeras for 6 gold. Every 4th card you buy cost health instead of gold. This is so incredibly niche lol,the situations where this will pay off. And no doubt the animations will be horrible. Meanwhile they changed the tip jar to 4 gold for zero mana.
Most of them seem kinda lame as stand alone. Some could be interesting in combination with others but there is so many trinkets now that the chance to hit a trinket combo is very small.
Meanwhile eudora is the top1 hero as hinted upon a while ago. Blizzard just made something op on purpose they cant resist. I guess the algo needs op things to make it easier to algo.
The op and the weak things they are not bad balance. Its designed like that on purpose. Trinkets are designed to be bad or op on purpose,heroes are designed to be bad or op on purpose.
So the good trinkets are still there and everything else is now diluted with trinkets which are of to little impact or which are straight up trolling you like marine signet. I dont know there is some fun things in the patchnotes but overall i dont find it to exciting. Rolling low impact trinkets just isnt very fun and the game sort of transitions slowly back to vanilla. I have seen it with other mechanics as well. Where the mechanic gets toned down somewhat halve season and after that its just kinda bland. But will see how it will play out.
Where did you get the idea Eudora is the best hero? It doesnât even register on Jeef and Babbit tier list as playable. Itâs a terrible hero. Most heroes are far better than it by light years. If you spend gold to dig in the early rounds you are sacrificing tempo and you WILL start taking 15âs.
Discover a DR and triggers twice is very powerful on the right DR. Not to mention itâs not random itâs a discovery. The gold cost is meaningless on trinkets that translate into immediate tempo and power spikes.
Goose Portrait WILL get nerfed. That trinket is broken like Goose is with the Thorned Rose.
Are you sure you actually play BGâs? It say PLAY them not buy them. Thatâs a huge difference in many builds.
Itâs not terrible but itâs not meant for a pure Demon build. Pure demon builds want other trinkets. This is for a split or menagerie build. Keep in mind thereâs a second rewinder in the pool now so easier to take one and use certain demons more effectively outside of pure demon.
Thereâs certainly a couple that are weaker than the others but not by much. The elemental of surprise one will come down to how it works when determining if itâs good or not. Itâs not like thereâs a huge amount of OP trinkets right now in the first pool of trinkets. The ones that were OP have been severely toned down and the lantern will get fixed in the patch.
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Yes thats the one situation in which it might not be horrible. But i am sure it will be horrible even then because of the animations lol. And most apm builds dont care much for random spells not even if they stay t6 at the end of playing 40+minions (and they probably will reset back to 1 anyway like a similar mechanic in the past).
But picture the situation you are in when you get this trinket offered. First you lose 3 gold. And then 4 minions played later (which at that point is a most likely 16 gold later) you get your first ârewardâ : a random tier 1 spell.
Would you pick this as gallywix. Which is the ultimate hero for this trinket. Probably not,you are trying to survive and this is straight up minus 3 gold. With the ârewardâ starting to tickle in way later. Lategame you get lots of spells. Sure you have a good time when you are gallywix playing nala with this trinket. But you pick this trinket at 8 gold,way before you know what you will end up with. I think its absolutely horrible.
Goose i am not sure:first impression was that it was op but then i realized its 5 gooses summoned and that is quiet a lot. Maybe it will be op but maybe it wont be to bad.
It obviously is way and way better then the signet trinket for virtually the same price. Which sort of emphasises the point i want to make with this thread.
I was wrong about eudora i guess. I havent played bg much lately but yesterday saw on stream and the streamer playing eudora said it was top tier hero but maybe he was wrong.
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You arenât wrong about Goose. Getting 5 is not hard to do with a golden goose with reborn on it. The trinket i mentioned triggers it continuously 1 after another and keeps buffing the original so it goes on for quite a while. This is the normal setup for the Lasher build using the Rose Trinket. Iâve made Lashers with stats of 10K+.
You could of course play the Marine Signet in an APM build. Not a whole lot of those in the meta ATM but it could be useful. I see this more for builds that are printing minions into hand. The thing that makes it weak is honestly that the minion you most likely want to pair it with Nala is terrible right now. Late game traditional menagerie is tough to build unless you have the right lobby with cleave in it and Murloc scam to splash into it.
Most of what they are adding here looks to be targeting menagerie to make them more playable. Hopefully it works.
Nazjatar Postcard [4 Gold]
After you play a non-Naga minion, get a random Spellcraft spell.
Uhm? Mind you this is a greater trinket and its 4 gold. So now you can also cycle non nagas to buff your board with athissa. You wouldnt cycle nagas themselves usually (as this just falls short compared to other scaling) but maybe cycling other minions to get spells will be worth it. Its also a nice bonus if you buy other minions anyway,because you are a completely different build. But then you probably would want to spend your 4 gold on something better.
Meanwhile there is also this.
Flagbearer Portrait [3 Gold]
Get a âSky Pirate Flagbearerâ. Your Sky Pirates have +8 Attack.
1 gold less then the previous trinket and like 10 times stronger.
Then there is this for people on a budget.
Manipulator Portrait [1 Gold]
Get a Faceless Manipulator.
You get to copy a minion for 1 gold,thats your greater trinket and lategame value. Sure its only 1 gold and there are situations in which this is obviously amazing (well its probably never amazing but it can be somewhat decent in some very specific situations). But then you look at tip jar and think,hmm maybe that is better tempo.
Nala trinket i think is very good. Its just the powerlevel of these trinkets. Its such an enormous wide range. And its not balanced by the mana cost on the contrary. Because some good trinkets are cheaper then some bad trinkets.
It just feels very random and imbalanced. Which makes drawing a blank feels horrible. Because you think about what it could have been.
I am taking a bit of a risk here,trashing these trinkets without them even beeing in the game. Maybe some of them will actually be very good but in general i think i am correct with my assesment.
this one is insane for the exodia all type build
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