The game is a joke. Get rid of Sire

Thats irrelevant to Shakous theory.

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I don’t understand his theory. Like I said: I have changed names several times, and I know that the system gives you a different number each time you do that.
So; I don’t see how BTag proves anything.

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Yep, agreed. Thats all I was saying above in defense of Emida. The number means absolutely nothing when determining account age.

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Yeah. Emida has to be right , 'cause I’ve been around as long as anyone, but my Btag is no proof of that:)
Just have to look at post history I guess, lol.
Wonder if We can Wayback the original Forums?
We had real moderators then. I got banned more than a few times lol.

Nah, both of the old forums were eaten by cyberspace a long time ago.

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That’s too bad.:frowning: RIP Grimpond. Long live Mallenroh, lol

I think the idea is that btag is some rough measure of experience. But of course if you change your tag its not.
As I said I dont quite understand it.

Initially I used my email account for blizzard services.

Then we switched to btags. Is my btag just a reflection of where I was in the 100,000-10,000,000 btags handed out that day?

is it just because I clicked some button day 1? of btags being added? it been well over a decade just can’t remember.

Years later, hearthstone beta started and I continued to use the same id.

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Heck if I know. I’ve changed mine like Cher changes wigs.

not going to ss as its really just another … measuring contest.

But 13 oct 2013 2 “expert” packs.

18th Oct 2013 a Arena ticket.

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So you and I are 'bout the same age lol
(Well, in HS years :rofl:)

And to get back on message: Sire Sux. Kill it with fire.

Its a necessary evil to resolve the problem of too much removal.

In classic the ability to damage all minions for 4+damage was considered strong,

Now its relatively common to have the ability to completely wipe the board 2-4 times, Heck sire is not going to OTK unless you have already wiped the board 2-4 times.

Not every deck is capable of repeatedly spitting out wide boards.
The card is too good.
It acts like a cross between Mordresh and Reno.

Not sure why you feel this is a problem.

Some decks have smaller boards of large minions

Some decks have wider boards of small mininons,

Only agro decks tend to have wide boards before turn 6

But whatever board you have, generally if you have a minion based deck and not a face/other based deck your win condition is probably based around hitting the other hero repeatedly till they die.

But there are decks based around removal/freezing of the enemy minions sufficiently long to win by other means, face damage/destroy enemy hero/curse damage/mill damage/just plain card fatigue.

Ok say you are playing old style priest. His secondary win condition is to just run you out of cards and he has discover/quest etc to boost his deck beyond card fatigue after 30 turns. He probably has at least 4 methods of removing the board with the chance to discover more.

Traditionally the way to beat him would be to scare him into using his remove all on less then full boards earlier on leaving him no removal left when he really needed,

But over time blizzard has added more disovery, more removal and this type of play has become almost impossible to defeat.

I know selynn will deny that decks like this ever existed.

but I have had games where I was not able to keep a minion alive for more then 2 turns for 30 turns.
Is It fun compleing the quest 100 damage to enemy hero and not actually killing them?

Sire adds a win condition for that type of game. That’s why I like it.

Now is it too good? that’s a entirely different discussion. But for example making sire just a really good board removal that does nothing to the hero, adds to the problem. it does not solve the problem.

Problem too much board removal, ways of discovering board removal.

Solution: Sire does 1 damage per minion removed.

I no have this card and I still make the win game.

I think Sire is mordresh plus reno. Too good and the text should be changed.

btags were created at wotlk, bnet accounts are even older

and you can’t post a ss of your wins/achievements either because you know i’m right

how old are you? 10?

well, compared to us, regular posters, , you are a new player

well, i’ve never ever seen any old btag with 5 digits

I’m not trying to take sides, but I started in October of 2013.
I have changed my Btag several times though, so I don’t think BTag is infallible as a means of judging a player’s participation.

I dont know if i should laugh or cry lol when i read your replies. You are starting to look beyond stupid lol.

You are blind to any context what so ever. A good mix of that and the fact that you are beyond dishonest in how you discuss.

Context is very important mister.

How long do i have to school you in your obvious logical failures? Is anyone home? Hello???

Your whole reason for calling me a new player was because of my views about the card Denathrius. I was so new to this game that according to you i knew nothing about the game, the current meta, and i clearly had to be bronzeplayer. I lacked the understanding of the game according to you so my views about the card Denathrius was not valid. I had to listen to you and suck up to your views which again according to you where superior.

Do you understand that this is the context where you are calling me a new player? Do you have a hard time remembering what you have written, the context it happend and what this whole discussion is about? You keep changing your way of attacking the issue everytime your logic doesnt fit the story anymore. It only makes you look stupid lol.

  1. You have been proven wrong that you cant just go look at someones battletag and say that they are a new player.

  2. You have been proven wrong that i knew nothing about the meta. You have been proven wrong that i wasnt a bronzeplayer. You have been proven wrong that i knew nothing about the game. That happend after i played you like a toy for weeks and gave you a video of me being top 15% in legend.

So what is it you want now, that is what im really struggeling to understand. You want to leave the entire context of the discussion. Still claim that im new to the game, and for what? You want proof that im not new to the game , and then it prooves that i know nothing about the game, the meta , that im bronzeplayer and that my views of the card Denanthrius are less valid? Dude you have already gotten shamelessly prooven wrong about that. While you claimed i knew nothing about the meta, that i knew nothing about the game , that my knowledge about the game was so low that my opinions didnt matter, then i was playing in top 15% legend.

And now you are still grasping to your last straw, that clearly i must be new. Thats all you have left. Out of all your original statements its the sad only thing left on your list of nonsense. The rest you have been proven wrong already. And you have the dishonesty to talk like you are the one who was right lol.

I have never claimed i played since beta. I have claimed im not new to the game in the context it was brought up. I have played long enough to understand the mechanics of this game. I have played long enough to participate in any discussion about this game. Me being top 15% legend proves that.

But no instead of admit you where wrong you are trying to not lose the discussion by trying to make it look like we are discussing old vs new on a general basis. Context mister, remember what you said, why you said it, and the context you said it.

Better luck next time with trying to belittle someone. This time it didnt work. You ended up as the fool this time, trying to make me look like a fool.

Hope you learn, but i have my doubts.

Shakou isn’t wrong in your not participating here.
You are new to this audience.

It was never a discussion about participation in the forum. Read my post above. The key word is context. Why he called me new in the first place was to put me in a bracket of unknowledgable noobs who knew nothing about the game. A mere bronzeplayer peasant. This have been proven wrong beyond doubt and his house of cards have fallen.

Now he is trying to survive this by discussing new vs old on a general basis.