Surging Inspiration DOES NOT WORK WITH SHADOW PRIEST

“Both players start with upgraded powers” but you play Shadow priest you’re SOL

since when is a basic hero power ?

It is not, but technically it is possible to make it work, but Blizzard sadly changed the card shadowform for Dark Benedictus, so it don’t upgrade anymore. Shadowform died for Benedictus, sadly.

2-mana useless shadowform that don’t upgrade while mage has wildfires for 1 mana… they simply could remove this card from the game at this point.

From a coding perspective, I suppose “Start of the game” effects happen in sequence (one after the other).

This particular case give us a clue in which order “Start of the game” effects resolve.

First you get the event effect, here upgrade hero power
Then Benedictus override the upgraded hero power and give you the regular shadow form.

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Not really.
When you have many they resolve at random order.

The shadow form hero Power Just isn’t a basic hero Power but one gave by a card.
It does not even matter if the upgrade form for it exists or not because it isn’t even eligible for this anomally to work with it in first place.

It’s not dificult to understand.

As a software developer, i’ll tell you, there is no such thing as random, unless specifically coded for.

Every time a game start, the client calls for a number of functions or subroutines, and always call them in a specific order, unless you specifically coded a RNG variation.

Computer programming is not magic, it does exactly what you tell him to do, and always does it exactly the same (unless some parameters change).

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Look you.

This is a thread where this topic doesn’t even matter.

If it was first it would be replace by shadowform.
If it goes last it just don’t upgrade.

Both are literally the same result. You get your shadowform without upgrade.

So keep the literature on fake randoness to yourself.
Because it is irrelevant for that mechanic.

Nah man, it’s not the same, one overrides the other. The order matters.

For example, there is an effect that give each player +5 health. Since the event effect goes first, your health is raise to 35 HP, then renathal set it to 35, which basically nullify the effect.

If the order was reversed, renathal would set your health to 35, then the event would give you +5.

Order matters.

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Yes, I just wanted to write this… you were faster. :smiley:

It literally don’t.

Upgrade is a very specific set of change.

From one to “it’s better”.

If it’s coded anything different than that you have sphagetti coding.

And we know it isn’t because there are other cards with these effects and they really just upgrade if you’re with a Basic hero Power.

Shadow form hero powers just aren’t Basic.

Therefore if it did go first it would not be affected by the annomaly.
If it goes after it will replace.

It’s literally the same result undependant of being first or second for this one.

i see where the misunderstanding is, you thought we were talking about a deal 4 damage hero power, that is not the case.

Order does matter.

If event goes last, it would be like this

  • start with a heal 2
  • Benedictus give you a deal 2 damage
  • event override it and give you a heal 4.

If event goes first we have

  • start with a heal 2
  • event replace with a heal 4
  • Benedictus override it and give a deal 2 damage

Not the same result depending on the order.

No.

The event text is clear.

If you want a real clue then you should check annomalies that aren’t conditional. This one is.

The Basic hero powers set is the pool of the non altered hero powers of all classes.
If you’re not with one of these for any reason the annomaly does not apply to you.

Personally I think this shouldn’t work this way tho. You have Renathal in your deck to have +5 health. This anomaly is just an unilateral benefit for your opponent if you’re running Renathal and that seems unnecessary. I struggle to believe this was the intended outcome and not an oversight.

As someone that played a 40 card shadow priest deck a lot, I can tell you the order of the start of game effects is random.

mb they will notice all start of game interaction and fix them

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