I’m using many highlander decks, which means I took the payoff of not using duplicates in my deck to use those highlander cards,and this is the point of highlander cards right? you risk the consistency of the rest of your deck because those extremely powerful cards.
I find it unfair that decks that use lots of duplicates to be able to use the highlander cards, they don’t risk anything and they get to use the highlander cards?
Yes I mean Galakrond warlock, that’s why it’s the strongest deck in the game !
And what makes me so salty is that when I play as a highlander mage, priest or hunter against a Galakrond Walrock with his deck filled with duplicates, by the end of the game my Highlander cards are not even working because of Albatross, but his highlander cards are working perfectly fine !
It should be a start of a game effect imo, that would stop these draw heavy decks from being able to run highlander cards
Yeah, I wonder if it wouldn’t be better this way.
Devs said they didn’t like that there was ‘no interaction’ potential like this, but the fast draw speed of both Galakrond rogue AND Galakrond warlock means albatrosses don’t actually work anyway PLUS they did not subject their deck to any deck restrictions to put them in there.
The strongest decks right now have tons of card draw, and that’s part of why they are doing so well. If this was a beginning of the game requirement, the highlander decks would actually be able to compete with these decks — but instead those same strongest decks are able to use the highlander cards to further their strength against the field which I think is pretty stupid.
Actually maybe the proper change is to limit the card draw of those decks or increase mana costs so they can’t go through their hand so fast that drawing so fast is so reliable
Sure, make it start of game… make Galakrond unplayable unless fully invoked at the same time then.
Only a few archetypes with undeniably unfair draw options can do that.
So why not?
Galakrond is not comparable in this context.
There would be no counter to Highlander cards if they relied on a “Start of game”-style trigger instead of looking at the deck as it is when they’re played.
As these cards work now, you have the option to include cards that can counter them.
I 100% agree with this I’ve suggested it in the past aswell and I’ve seen others talk about it aswell. Would be so much better.
The counter is consistency, with a bigger card pool you might be able to come away from it abit but in the standard format there just isnt enough great cards to not cause some consistency issues.
Some cards is just too good to have a proper replacement.
I kinda have to agree. Considering Albatross will be dead next patch.
i’m confused so i’m going to slightly rephrase your post in order to make sure I’ve got this correct:
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You play highlanders decks
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Others play decks with duplicate cards as well as dragonqueen and zephrys
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You are of the opinion that it’s unfair for you to restrict yourself to only one of each card in a 30 card deck to make sure you are always able to fill the highlander requirement but decks that do not restrict themselves in the same manner can still benefit from said DQ and Zeph
If the above is what you are stating, I’m unsure as to why you feel that way considering DQ and Zeph are complete dead draws for those players until they do draw out all of their duplicate cards - they’re actually restricting themselves MORE than a deck that is trying to strictly adhere to the standard highlander deck-building philosophy. If anything, you should feel as if you have the advantage against such a deck.
I’m not saying that if they do fulfill the restriction it can be quite a surprise and tempo-shifting at times - I wouldn’t call it unfair, though.
Please don’t.
Sincerely, steal priest
Why does there have to be a “counter” to the deck type? Why can’t you just counter their actual cards played like you would against every other deck.
Singleton decks on average, are already weaker than double decks - and they use their overpowered cards to make up that difference.
Wouldn’t I be gimping myself though if I had doubles in my deck and I drew Zephrys early and couldn’t use him? That would be the ‘penalty’.
I’m sorry I’m not a native speaker, I’ll try my best not to confuse you.
Yes as you said, the issue here is the deck that I’m talking about " Galakrond Warlock" warlock in general can draw cards so fast, and even if he has 2 dead cards in his hand it usually doesn’t matter, this deck can wipe board pretty easily, they have 4 removals, not mentioning the lifesteal spells they have, I don’t have a problem with that, my problem is I can’t accept that I restricted my deck to be able to use the highlander cards " Zephrys, Dragonqueen, Reno, Bran etc" on the other hand they don’t so they have more consistency and they get to use the highlander cards, you said that you wouldn’t call that unfair ?
I don’t know if you have been playing standard lately, but play against Galakrond warlock and you’ll get what I’m saying.
“if your STARTING DECK and your ACTUAL DECK has no duplicate do …”
The problem is, the ‘counter’ to those cards doesn’t work against the decks that can draw through their deck really fast, so the counter only exists for PURE highlander decks who already suffer from the deck building restriction.
Basically, there is only a counter for highlander decks, but not the explicit highlander cards themselves
It actually grinds my gears a bit when a Warlock has all the consistency of running duplicates AND the extra reach of Zephrys and Dragon Queen Alexstraza.
With Highlander decks you can at least, count the cards and find a spot where you can commit the board to either force a Zephrys out or win if they don’t have it; that does not happens with the actual iteration of WL and make it seem like it’s free extra power, you know?
Here, we gave you all this draw so you can have extremely high consistency in your deck, and use the highlander cards too, why not?
This sounds like the Starcraft counter to mass carriers, which is kill the protoss before he gets mass carriers. If you don’t want a big deck to get a big bomb at the end of the game, don’t let the other guy live that long.
Also, wouldn’t that change copy odd/even deck basicly? I think a better change would be, you can’t put them in your deck if there is even ONE duplicate card