So, you shuffle plagues into a deck but cannot remove them? You need counterplay to make the game balanced. I STRONGLY recommend putting a steamcleaner back into rotation asap in a hotfix.
It really is that simple.
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Well if i have my information correction the dev did say they are open to changing the core set at any time if they feel it neccesary.
I do think some counterplay needs to exist because at the moment highlander decks have counterplay to them and in this case maybe plagues should too this is making me thing of a topic ive wanted to talk about for awhile now thank you this post reminded me.
I think steamcleaner would be sensible in core.
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they even got rid of the location remover card.
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Steamcleaner is not good just against DK, but a whole range of decks.
- Boomboss ’ dynamites
- Fizzle’s snapshot (like nature shaman)
- 1 mana legendary from aviana (i know, it’s not like Aviana terrorizes the meta right now)
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I generally agree that steam cleaners are welcome in standard. Without steam cleaners dks are encouraged to play the helya tech in every deck that can legally run it, because the effect is game ending if any game goes long enough.
I agree.
It’s a good card.
Personally, I wouldn’t do steamcleaner I would do the wild card that destroys 1 cost spells in each player’s deck. It would work against nature shaman plagues etc.
Maybe We should lobby for both:)
I have been burned to much by steamcleaner when i am trying to have fun while playing cards like fires of zinashari. I totally misspelled the card, but it has made me hate steamcleaner ever since it came out.
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lost to an aviana deck…? we dont need steam cleaner
it would only be used to kill fun decks
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Maybe a new cheaper card that only destroys like 3 cards instead of all cards that didn’t start in deck so it wouldn’t complete kill something like Explore Un’goro and Fires of Z that change your entire deck.
Renounce Darkness Warlock just hasn’t been the same since Steamcleaner was introduced either
i dont want sludge lock to have that much power
isn’t plague dk like 48% wr
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^ theres always one person who has to post stats about WRs, it doesnt matter if it isn’t the best what matters is how via discovery and Helya, you end up with dead cards in your deck that you can’t do anything about anymore. **
I mean they kept Viper. Plenty of weapons out there requiring its counterplay
Steamcleaner not only works on Plagues but also shuffled Hydra’s, Jade’s, and TNTs
Why it wasn’t included from the get go is mind bottling
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No, Steamcleaner is not good enough. They need to release Vacuumcleaner in the Miniset and it would be a 3 mana 3/3 Miniaturize (handvac art) with Steamcleaner effect, that way we can all move on from complaining about plagues/highlanders
is good it wasnt included its anti fun and we dont really need it
didnt you say these decks have low win rates?
we can use
tony (which can counter plagues )
rafaam
and the new aviana freely thx to steamcleaner not being in standard to ruin it
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Plagues are anti-fun. What are you on about with steamcleaner being anti-fun? Its SUPER fun to watch free damage come in that just gets to go back into your deck to do it again.
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Funny that you would mention it, because if Reno wasn’t a dead card in your hand, I would completely lose 5-7 cards and have a dead turn afterwards
Interesting how hypocritical people can be xD
Look at the winrate of individual matchups on VS Syndicate. You literally have 1 counter and you complain about it. And that counter is a tier 3 meme deck, as well.