I think I just found the most toxic deck of this expansion. I currently play a Demonhunter deck, that recycles Arkonite Defense Crystal. Felhunter resommuns two of them. Then Felbat resummons two Felhunters. I have not lost any games with this deck so far.
One of my opponents also played a similar deck. Suddenly I realized how frustrating this is to play against. The endless taunt and armor gain is hard to get through. It takes ages to beat this deck, if you beat it at all. And its wincon is otk with Ceaseless+Exodar. Mirror matches aren’t really fun. In the long run, they will mostly come down to “Who plays Kil’Jaeden first?”
As Blizzard wants to cut down on damage from hand and otk, I guess this is the first deck to get nerfed. I still kinda like playing it though. I will play it until Arkonite is inevitably nerfed to 5mana.
Have you played against the deck already? Is it toxic? Should it be nerfed?
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There’s an infinite Paladin deck that refills the board each turn and a druid and Warrior deck that does the same. The advantage of the paladin deck is that it never hits fatigue and doesn’t need to play Kiljaeden.
It appears infinite value is how the meta is going to start. Have to figure out a way to beat them real fast real early because there is no way to beat them late game.
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Yes and it is not that bad.
If you rush It and understand that when you removing things you advance his game plan you can Win with a balanced approach that tries to not remove his Minions as much as possible slowing they a Lot that can be enough to many decks to Win before they drown in armor.
Tell me more. I haven’t seen this yet.
Also, lol this DH deck I wanted to play is getting massive hate on reddit with many people claiming it’s extremely toxic and nearly impossible to lose aside from a few small counters.
It might be nerfed or hotfixed. They won’t allow 400 armor DH to be a thing.
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I lost to that deck, lol. Yeah it’s really good. I cleared his minions and finally thought I had him then Kil’jaeden came out, but it came down to him playing Kayn Sunfury when i had two taunts out.
Logged in to the forums just to say this.
An absolute abomination. Ive been playing it for 3 hours lost only 2 times and thats because I couldnt find my arkonites early. Once one drops the game is over really.
We are gonna suffer a lot until they do something about it. Its the new buffed version of taunt druid.
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This is the base shell i have seen that most work with.
2x (1) Aegis of Light
2x (1) Dragonscale Armaments
2x (1) Giftwrapped Whelp
2x (2) Bitterbloom Knight
2x (2) Netherspite Historian
2x (2) Redscale Dragontamer
2x (3) Bronze Explorer
2x (3) Goldpetal Drake
2x (4) Dreamwarden
2x (4) Flutterwing Guardian
2x (4) Illusory Greenwing
2x (4) Ursine Maul
1x (7) Anachronos
2x (7) Renewing Flames
1x (8) Malorne the Waywatcher
1x (8) Ursol
1x (100) The Ceaseless Expanse
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The one variant i played against played this. You have absolutely no idea how bloody annoying it was to clear some from the board and they just get 3 more 6 drops 3 turns in a row.
Once the deck runs out the Imbue power shuffles in 2 more 10+ drops each turn to come out and you can even hold Greenwings to shuffle in at the end.
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Well…
And here it is crystal cluster again even after a nerf. Enough said just kill it and burn with fire.
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sounds alot like armor wheellock, as soon as optimized aggrro starts popping up it won’t be amazing
already expieriementing with aggro imbue mage lists and its working well for me so far
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I get that, but I don’t get how it’s infinite. You will take fatigue damage each turn. I guess you can call it infinite technically but it’s not infinite to me unless it has potential to go to max turns, and this deck can’t do that without Kiljaeden whch then destroys your imbue.
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Okay i understand what you mean. I am not sure how the Paladins i was playing against did it. But they avoided the fatigue damage. Could have been that new DS but i am not sure. Maybe they just won before it mattered. I conceded all those games when it got to that point anyway because i couldn’t remove the boards anymore.
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Crushed a few of them with Suck DK. Leeches care not about your armor!
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I had to include 2x Hex in all of my Shaman decks. Although they can find it again with Return Policy, hexing their Defense Crystal slows them down a lot.
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This is the problem I have been preaching about is the tutor affect with no restrictions. Certain effects shouldn’t apply unless you have so many in a deck or so many have been triggered by different possible outcomes. In this example you could say the effect of the respawning of death rattles untill the pool is like 4 different possible DR minions have died… That way you are not always spawning the same effect. You know a bit of randomness like these things all used to be when HS first started. In this case it would be spawn a RANDOM DR of cost less than X… Not one and the only one that has died from your deck.
But nope the designers ALLOW this to all happen and then it just seems to be one problem child that is a no brainer… Oooh look respawning 2 blockers that also make me near unkillable and is also an OTK builder HA HAHAHA!.
They didnt, you dont know what you are talking about.
I already said i am not sure how they avoided the damage or if they didn’t and i didn’t realize it because the games were over. When you feel like posting something relevant to the forums let us all know.
Thanks for playing though.
How are you doing this?
Because it absolutely bricks hard more often than it hits. If you can’t get the crystals out, the whole thing is useless?
Maybe I do not have the correct list at this point, but I am not impressed with it.
This is the deck that is the highest ranked on HSguru
2x (1) Illidari Studies
2x (1) Tuskpiercer
2x (2) Grim Harvest
2x (2) Immolation Aura
2x (3) Infiltrate
2x (3) Mixologist
2x (3) Return Policy
2x (3) Shattershard Turret
2x (3) Warp Drive
2x (4) Arkonite Defense Crystal
1x (4) Nightmare Lord Xavius
2x (5) Carnivorous Cubicle
2x (5) Ravenous Felhunter
2x (7) Ferocious Felbat
1x (7) Kil’jaeden
1x (7) The Exodar
1x (100) The Ceaseless Expanse
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Thank you.
I will take that for a spin and see if I get better results.
IF you want to see how it’s played Nohandsgamer is playing it on Twitch right now.