So there was this Q and A thread on reddit

I’m sorry, but I find the circular arguments in defense of doing nothing to be unpersuasive.

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Mr. Ayala? Are you there? If you see this (you’ve already replied once to this thread, so maybe you’re still watching it), I’m asking honestly and completely un-snarkily: is there any particular reason why the AMA’s/developer Q&A’s couldn’t be done both here and on Reddit at exactly the same time? It seems like it would be the easiest solution, addressing both your desire to reach the larger audience on Reddit, while giving legitimacy to your brand-spanking-new official forums.

(Side note: it initially took some getting used to, but I do like this new forum format. Thank you Blizzard)

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Honest answer? Reddit has free mods who curate the AMA thread and consolidate it all, while removing the chaff.

Forums require curation to be useful.

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I’m not trying to persuade anyone, but if someone has the options of:

  1. Reddit communications
  2. Official Forum communications
  3. Any other activity (because these people do more than talk on the internet)

and only has time for two of the above, if option (2) is the least profitable, it gets chopped.

Even IF they take that approach though, I still feel that it’s our new Community Manager’s responsibility to communicate major things like AMAs and the like on here, the official forums.

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On days leading up to a Q&A, perhaps a system of some kind could be established here where we choose a temporary moderator from the community, who could volunteer to gather the most-asked questions and post them. Then Blizzard would just have to find that temp mod, and look at their posts. Seems entirely possible to me.

For example, you Mand (if you are the same Mand from the old forum) were involved, trusted, and experienced enough there to get MVP status. You could be a pretty good temporary moderator, I think (if you were even interested, of course, lol).

Dean you guys really need to get your heads out of your asses. Facing three statues on turn5 is not my way of having fun. Developers with idiotic ideas and then the idiots players that abuse those ideas is ruining HS. This is so idiotic it makes it seems like you guys are doing it on purpose.

posters there aren’t all players whereas all posters here ARE players

I can’t believe I agree with theriddler :frowning:

plz, no more rank 20 players as mvp, can we get for once, one of the top players as map so at least we can get help for deck/tech card choices etc…?

Jesse had some plans he was working on but didn’t have a chance to implement them before the layoffs.

To current CM team, do you have any intention on continuing what Jesse started?

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Where is the Applause button?

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Curation is too fancy a word, you wanted the forums to be nothing but praise for the almighty game developers. It is closer to licking boots than curating content.

Since you don’t like circular arguments

What do you think of the fact that the answer to the question about achievements was a question? Did you find it persuasive? Are you convinced?

I do hope you Jest. If we need any moderation, it should be the music of the drums of war.

Just take a look at how many “ThIs Is WhY PoEpLe ArE QuItTiNg” threads where folks use examples of their own horrid gameplay as justification for something being broken/unfair/unfun and how they should’ve won that match. Some days there’s so much junk like that to sift through (if your goal is to find quality feedback to take in or answer) that the ability of sites like Reddit to only show highly upvoted things is fantastic for devs, unfortunately. Also note that highly upvoted very much does NOT mean it’s only positive feedback, especially on there.

On Reddit, obviously non-constructive feedback/criticism just gets ignored and never even shows up, whereas on here it’s in your face all day and actively deleting it without a breech of CoC would step over the line into censorship which would only makes things even worse.

Thus, the only way to not make this place look like a cesspool is for the participating members to not s**tpost every time they feel a tantrum coming on.

I won’t hold my breath on that one, lol.

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But isn’t it some kind of auto-regulation? The very members of the forums deciding? No one has to delete anything.

Is it not possible to implement it here? We already have the upvotes, it’s just a matter of having them affect the layout.

Ridiculous. I’ve called them out plenty myself, and was not sparing in my criticism. The incessant, unfounded, or unconstructive whining, on the other hand, I’ll respond to just as unsparingly.

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Still i dont get it. Jesse was the only one talking to these forums and still they fired him. What do the other CM do more than him? (No h8 intented)

there are people criticizing the game on reddit too but way less conspiracy theories and people insulting others (lost track of how often people in the forums insulted others because they said they like a class or deck) you probably like those but we dont need them

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Speaking of non-constructive feedback on reddit:
-‘‘Hey guys i built quel’edar’’ 1000 likes
-‘‘We ll miss you (place card name)’’ 500 likes
-Funny arena or match moment 800 like
-Funny streamer moment 380 like

Now dont get me wrong, reddit also has some nice discussions but in all seriusnes one can get more constructive feedback in these forums than reddit.

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The Discourse platform doesn’t function that way.

I can assure you all that Mand and myself are far from best buds, anyone on discord will vouch for that, but this is at least somewhat true. He DOES make many callout posts directed at Blizzard for his “grievances” with the game. Its just that, more often than not, his opinion doesnt reflect the general consensus of the forum community, which comes across as “boot-licking” quite often.

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IMO, the main issue with bluenames on the forum is that Blizz folks equate blog writing with forum communication. There’s an implicit assumption that everyone on the forum reads all the blogs and that writing a blog is identical to posting the same info on the forum.

The problem is not that bluenames post info on social media - it’s that interactive discussion seems to happen exclusively everywhere except Blizzard’s own discussion forum.

Whether it’s intentional or not, this seemingly intentional refusal to engage with some of the most passionate members of the Hearthstone audience feels both confusing and deliberately “second class”.

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Personally i think that they know that if they had to stick out their heads here it would probably be torn to shreds. But is avoiding this forum for that reason any way solve the problem.

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