Why is blizzard so stupid destroys mage class all-time and removes her spell but gives it other classes in return? Half the spells and card shaman has now if the mage had everyone would be calling for nerf right way but it ok for other classes to be better than a mage with spells she should have.
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Deal with it?
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Why should mage have deal with maybe all mage players should leave see how hearthstone goes. it will be a mess without the class. Then watch hearthstone really die quick.
You all don’t like a class but need class for hearthstone to live like any other card game.
Blizzard is clever than you think. Also, Shaman isn’t the same as Mage. They both have similar cards. Shaman is more natural when it comes to spells henceforth the elements like wind, fire, water, and etc. Mage is all about doing spells of any kind by casting or by reading a book to gain the konwledge of the spell. They also have monions they can summon due to the spells.
Its like saying nurse and a doctor they both have similar tools. Nurse can’t use doctor tools but they can share a doctor tool for a situation then remove it out of the nurse room.
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The point is they removed the freeze mage archetype from standard bc people were screaming, “not fun” " not interactive" “I can’t do anything for several turns in a row!” Now they give the concept to shaman in a more powerful way. It’s the same thing, freeze the board over and over until you have the necessary cards to nuke the opponent down.
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It’s a shame. I like the idea of Freeze Mage, too. But, one big difference is that Freeze Shaman heavily relies on minions with which players can interact. From my understanding, Freeze Mage didn’t really do this.
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That’s not true. Freeze mage was getting too strong so they nerf the archtype. There was a unesscary change that happen due to what looks like many complainning about forst armor secert that made frost mage strong but of coruse those who were saying this either didn’t know how to play around it. There was hardly to none ways to counter the secert according to them.
Last time I check before the new expanision there are ways to deal with it depending on the class one choose along with other cards for nuetural. The voices were loud. I also know other cards were involed and the loud voices confusing balence cycle by switching the power between classes for x number of expainsion back and forth.
Shamen having forst is nothing new. If they played during the lichking expansion when it came out what they will know the true pain of forst mage along with the shaman when facing eachother. The other classes was something else.
I can tell you don’t like how mage and shaman can be strong when it comes to board clearing. Blizzard rotate frost mage out they do this with other classes of thier stuff regardless of how many really begs to remove the archtype. They have done it since the game came out and by interducing new arch type. Defualt cards are still going to be there and they have rotate these cards too.
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Didn’t know Mal had two accounts.
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It would be so much healthier, tbh. People who blindly play a single class like this is an rpg are part of the problem, not the solution.
same reason why DH is getting the best big demons, while warlock doesn’t.
They decided to make classes “more specifics”; now mage plays spells, shaman plays elements (freeze and nature, maybe also fire in the future, it would make sense)
why?
Most of the time, there is always 1 class (often more) that are not played at all in the meta.
If a mage player wants to play “freeze stall”, then playing shaman makes more sense than leaving the game.
I am playing mage right now, without feeling bad because I don’t have mass freezing: the deck I am using doesn’t stall to get to an OTK.
Personally have mixed feelings about high curve mage decks.
Like rune performs good and i not doubt that anymore but isn’t better a deck you not need to reach the situation to use rune in First place?
It’s kinda of why i stick to the tempo Variants of wildfire mage.
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No it was forever the same basic deck until they retired Classic and made the switch to Core. A deck like Freeze Mage fine for a rotation not fine forever. Mage was forever before it was retired from Standard. People were tired of the same old thing and went with the fun and interactive argument because that was a Blizzard stated reason for nerfs that spawned a meme and every time people got sick of the forever decks being in yet another meta they went to that meme.
Freeze Shaman on the other hand is a passing fad. Once the set rotates so does Freeze Shaman. Unlike Mage that had Frost Nova as a base card and Blizzard in Classic locked in forever without the change to Core.
Oh I know what it is. People that built Freeze Mage in 2014 are mad they can’t keep using that deck and have to do something else for Standard.
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I agree that it’s hypocritical. Mage feels like the beta class.
We had freeze. They stripped it and gave it to other classes. Same with Secrets.
Same with Tempo, cost reductions, etc.
Tempo is back now, although it isn’t as good as what others can produce.
well once the set rotates is kinda of a damn long time still for freeze shammy most of the core for it is from the not rotating sets.
Would you all be opposed to bringing Freeze Mage back? Why?
Oh so Fracture in Alterac Valley is the new Classic and never rotating? First time I have ever heard of that.
It starts to feel like this give to the mage then take it away then give it to someone else to use. instead, give mage actual descent build in her life but won’t because they want to keep her in the lower tier.
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If I were to guess. They took a chance on giving Shaman Frost cards because Shaman is currently encouraged to play minions while Frost Mage was more about staling you out so they could burn you down from hand. But I dunno.
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did i say it was never rotating? no i didnt i said most of the core of freeze shaman, as in core of the deck not core cards as in core cards of shaman… are not rotating for a while yet cause most of them come from alterac…
remove it ? im pretty sure cone of cold and flurry still freeze minions