With no buffs to replace demon seed does anyone have a legitimate competitive deck for this class that can compete in legend? Its already a dead class in standard outside the top 1% and I dont see any other solid win conditions in wild with hostage mage, otk spell druid, aggro priest, big shaman, shudderwock shaman.
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The last few days i was surprised because its as if the warlocks in legend suspected their fate, abandon the mothers breast and started to play different things like: even warlock with giants and some control stuff…
Warlock is the king of disruption in wild, and maybe in removals too.
I dont consider them fully dead…
The Sargeras portal is a victory condition in itself, that tbh, getting reno out of the way, im afraid of they using it again.
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sargeras feels way too slow for wild but we’ll see im so surprised they didnt buff anything for warlock after taking their main competitive deck. Ive been playing hostage mage so I honestly dont mind seeing seed go
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Warlock is done as far as I can tell. Demonseed was the only meta-relevant warlock deck.
If they grow a pair and un-nerf azerite snek at rotation, warlock might be able to make that work in wild, but it’s too slow now with all the 40 health decks and life gain mechanics.
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Demonseed is still OP, been crushing people easily with this deck. The nerf did nothing but maybe keep you from completing the quest turn 3-4. But easily finish it by turn 5 and then kill the other player off on turn 6 with minions on the board and the damage to face with Tasmin.
Card still needs to be re-worked as i shouldnt be able to beat players this quickly and be at full health from playing my health stone cards.
idk what rank ur in but most of my wild games are over by turn 5 in legend
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Can you show me a replay of this in action? I’m assuming you’re playing sub legend MMR and against some sort of Reno homebrew that passes most of those five turns?
The deck without darkglare folds to everything fast and really only has a chance against the slowest decks in the format, which don’t play at higher ranks. I bet it loses more often than not to quest priest at this point.
I mean, I guess that depends more on what you’re playing, but you’re not far off.
Demonseed is fully cooked after the double whammy with the sledge.
Good. Its long overdue.
I still dont think its “cooked” its only ever 1 cards away from being broken… AGAIN!
You want to know the biggest problem with Warlock in wild? Its not even a card, its Lifetap. Both Seed, and even Discard lock, are always gonna be just 1 card away from being busted with Lifetap as the HP as it does far too much to fuel the conditions of those decks.
Lifetap is the issue with Warlock in wild!
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It would take several cards now and it’s still going to be too slow for wild with the higher quest requirement.
You now need to take more damage than your starting health total to finish it.
What a bizarre take.
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Libram Paladin is the biggest problem in wild at the minute.
You need a total board removal every turn but they leave this untouched and nerf the demon seed… Its mental. Its not a Legendary card anymore, bareley even an Epic now.
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Nah, 24 hours later and DS decks are still performing well.
No, its a logical take based on the history of Wild. Lifetap causes SO many issues with Warlock in Wild its not even funny!
Honestly Lifetap would (probably) be better balanced in Wild if it was spend 2 health to gain 1 mana this turn with how much Pain and Discard synergy there is in the game now.
I am not saying Lifetap should be changed, just stating reality that it is the cause of so many warlock nerfs and, even bans, in the format. It really is the definition of restricting design space.
https://hearthstone-decks.net/renathal-reno-warlock-60-legend-unknown-score-30-21/
https://hearthstone-decks.net/questline-warlock-446-legend-impermanencehs-score-9-3/
https://hearthstone-decks.net/even-warlock-220-legend-senastenahs-score-22-13/
Not at any competitive rank. I mean, they’re still farming bronze homebrew, but that’s meaningless.
Ya, no. Not seeing it.
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So d4 to legend isnt competitive?
What about just legend?
Its a T2 deck in those brackets.
Only in top 1k is it T3.
Keep in mind, your OWN comments on top 1k data in the past.
And, Seedlocks win rate has actually IMPROVED in the last 24 hours, after being nerfed at the competitive ranks! If anything it didnt get hit hard enough!
Not really, not if it’s just MMR matching now. It’s still dumpster legend wild which sucks, honestly.
If I can get there, it’s pretty much trash tier.
No, it isn’t. There’s not enough time since the nerf to have any actually useful data.
I don’t know where you think you got stats from, but I won’t trust them.
Yet you have repeatedly stated over many months that top 1K is not the be all and end all. Now you have changed your stance. Outside of top 1k, Seedlock is a top 5 deck at this point in time.
You cant choose when top 1k is relevant like that. It either is, or it isnt. You need to be consistent in your decision and not flip-flop when it suits your agenda.
You are in dumpster legend, if that, and in that bracket Seedlock remains very much competitive!
Cool, from Hsguru.
You not trusting them is a you issue.
Where do you get yours from?
Nowhere! You are just salty that the deck you liked got nerfed and, despite it still being a VERY good deck for 99% of players, just cant get over it!
“I only played it to get it nerfed!”
Now it is nerfed, and remains a viable option to climb with! The perfect nerf!!!
Ya, I’m not seeing what you’re selling.
There’s a few people working an xl seedlock, but that’s not the same deck or playstyle and it’s nowhere near as strong or prevalent as the previous builds. It’s not the same deck.
There are 15 decks in front of it, and it’s played less than 1000 games since the patch.
https://www.hsguru.com/decks/?format=1
It’s also the only version of seedlock above 50% winrate with at least 200 games played since the patch.
Warlock is dead, dude, stats don’t lie.
… it runs Ceaseless Expanse for goodness sake… not the same deck, dude. Seedlock is dead.
This has got to be like a slap in the face to you. The abomination. The sacrilege. Pure blasphemy. 
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What’s more annoying is people thinking I have some attachment to the deck.
I don’t care. As I said, I DE’d it and moved on.
It’s pretty nuts to play that way, but if that’s what works for them, okay. You almost have to because the quest alone is 36 self damage now.
Of course, none of that matters with healthstone to fix it, you just have to hold out a couple more turns to get your mana high enough to swing.
If it gets nerfed again, will you accept my premise that healthstone is the culprit?