This has always been a mystery me and proof of rigged losses and wins. With the current state of the game there is a lot of, shuffle cards into your deck, but the one thing that doesn’t make any sense to me is how 3 cards manage to shuffle to the top of a deck. I don’t see how people can try and argue with “oh it’s rng” No one shuffles 3+ cards to the top of a deck every time. Maybe i’m having a bad luck streak or maybe these bad luck streaks are too common that I notice a pattern of poor game design.
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If you’re not going to link replays of these “three cards shuffled tonthe top every time,” which sounds rather fanciful to me, don’t expect any credibility. Statistically speaking this IS bound to happen on occasion but it’s likely that you’re salty over a loss and exagerrating.
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Whatever you’re speaking of, so how many times did it happen out of how many occasion? Oh, don’t tell me it happened once and you don’t remember how many occasion it was. Btw, rogue card Beneath the Grounds. I saw my brother get all 3 spiders right after he played it, once. This too must be rigged, right?
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Disguisedtoast did a whole stream on this before this last release. He was asking gif there was a bug in the AI. He played against his other account so I could take the time to do the shuffling of cards (into both decks). One would shuffle cards into their own deck and the other would shuffle cards into their opponents deck. He would then draw cards to see if there was some kind of pattern to it like you ask. More often then not there seemed to be this pattern to shuffling cards right back into cue.
Its what you decide to believe because no one is going to except any video, theory or anything until there are hard numbers and spreadsheets on it and no one is going to do that.
Its kind of like my believe about Zilliax always being in the top half of the deck. You just have to wait for him. Either to get you back into the game or to win the game. Like play the 2/2 DR Dragon turns into a 7/7. Of they can’t kill the 7/7 pop Zilliax on the new mega mech and then come it win the manipulator. Two 10/9 charging, life stealing mechs with divine shield ready to go on turn 10. The cards will probably be there. Just have to get there and wait for it.
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Why are you acting like Trolls do not exist, if you can prove yourself then people will take you seriously…simple
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As someone who has played an unhealthy amount of Spider Rogue, unlike Miracle Rogue, this deck is all about bouncing Fal’dorei Striders to shuffle as many spiders as possible into my deck, I can assure you this is nothing more than your confirmation bias at work.
I have much data/replays (100+) I can provide of my Spider Rogue deck in action if anyone wants to write a detailed report on it. I will all but guarantee no anomaly in the shuffle is found. Yes, sometimes I hit one or two after shuffling. I have also had occasions where I had 20+ Spiders in my deck and not drawn one for 3-4 consecutive turns as well.
OFC, I dont expect any believing the claim to accept this challenge because result will not support their agenda, but the offer is on the table.
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All I know is Shudderwock is almost always either Mulliganed or Bottom Decked. Pick your poison when playing that card.
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Well, like I said my fairly extensive experience with a deck dedicated to shuffling shows no indications of the phenomena you describe in the OP, so of course its gonna take more than unsubstantiated claims to convince me otherwise.
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My anecdotal evidence differs greatly from your anecdotal evidence, from both a played against and played as perspective.
Now what?
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I assume almost everyone here has played a card game in real life. Take Magic for example, when you play another player in real life and shuffle a card, have you experienced a card shuffled to the top? No, you know why? Because that’s called cheating, manipulating cards to the top is called a cheater.
_Other card games have referees and agencies monitoring the card game but you know who doesn’t, blizzard. Why haven’t they released any information on that, or why isn’t there any information that proves that hearthstone isn’t rigged, where is your proof that the game isn’t rigged?
_It is likely for this post to be locked or removed soon, seeing how this is a topic usually does, as many users on reddit and other forums experience a ban from blizzard forums just for bringing up these topics.
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Wouldn’t forcing the card to never be shuffled to the top (an occurence that should absolutely have a non-zero probability) be manipulation?
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Blizz must have some next-level technology at their disposal!
Remember, kids: Big Blizzard is watching you.
You should try looking up the definition of shuffling. No such thing as shuffled to the top.
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Except when the card gets shuffled to the top.
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You’re trying too hard to defend your favorite game you’re ignoring logic.
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The purpose of shuffling something is to randomize it. If you’re forcing a specific outcome (or forcing the omittance of one) you sure as heck aren’t randomizing it. That’s called ‘rigging’.
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If you have 29 cards in a deck and shuffle 1 more in fairly, each card will have a 1/30 chance of being the top card. If it NEVER happens then I question your shuffling technique!
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I daresay I am not the one at fault here, since with all due respect, you are trying to redefine terms and reformulate the very laws of probability and phenomenon of randomness in order to indirectly defend your unsubstantiated claim.
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There is no element of randomness when cards are PLACED at the top. This “randomness” only exist in this game.
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Apparently you don’t know what ‘random’ actually means.
If you tell a random number generator that it has to pick a number between 1 and 25, but then turn around and say that it cannot pick 25, the result is no longer random.
Shuffling exists to randomize the order of cards.
Put two and two together here, champ.
You know what? We’re gonna take this one step further…
If you only had one card left in your deck and I shuffle a bomb into it, the chances of you drawing that bomb should be 50/50, yes? If you agree, then you agree that the card could be placed at any random spot in the deck post-shuffling, if you disagree and say that the card must be put only on the bottom of the deck, underneath the existing card, then you’re actively supporting rigging the shuffling, and thus arguing from the wrong side of this entire debate.
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