Shaman & Frost DK Dies To These Cards

Here is my Anti-Frost DK
You can take the core and transfer it to other decks but it has some real strong tools.

Demolition Renovator has been a stand out, other decks like Priest also use locations and has been pretty stand out at turning the game.
You have your anti-4/5 as well as anti-gnoll in poisonous scorpid. Incoporeal corproal ( a 2 mana 5/5 that trades up it’s weight and Gear grubber. Gear grubber is nice in opening hand it is a taunt that gets cheaper.

Corrupted Ash bringer with Runeforging/Selfless sidekick has been great at stabilizing, Frostmourne is whatever, it’s nice to get it cheated out and has turned games in both agro match ups (stealing rush/taunt) and against control decks but some agro decks are too fast for it.
What’s great about the weapon package is that you can have tutor cards/cheat that thin your deck to make up for dk’s lower draw potential.
Healing. I have not lost against Frost dk yet.
Considering there is a lot of whining against Frost dk, it’s very easy to play around, nothing compared to Early deathrattle rouge and Shaman right now.

Anti-Agro Weapon DK

Class: Death Knight

1x (1) Runeforging

1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn

2x (2) Hematurge

2x (2) Incorporeal Corporal

1x (2) Obliterate

1x (2) Vampiric Blood

1x (3) Asphyxiate

2x (3) Chillfallen Baron

2x (3) Construct Quarter

2x (3) Nerubian Vizier

1x (3) Prince Renathal

2x (3) Venomous Scorpid

2x (4) Death Strike

2x (4) Demolition Renovator

2x (4) Gear Grubber

2x (4) School Teacher

2x (5) Blood Boil

2x (5) Corpse Explosion

2x (6) Corrupted Ashbringer

2x (6) Gnome Muncher

1x (7) Alexandros Mograine

1x (7) Frostmourne

1x (7) Patchwerk

1x (7) Selfless Sidekick

2x (8) Soulstealer

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I think its pretty well known blood dk is one of the few decks that holds about 50/50 to frost dk. You might be winning consistently because of playing at lower ranks? It should be about a 50/50 MU with frost DK according to VS and other aggregate sites, or perhaps slightly favored but definitely not heavily favored.

Well this deck is heavily favoured. Only lost once because I drew two Gnome munchers, selfless sidekick and soulstealer and then non of my control tools.
Success because of low ranks? No. Success because well crafted counters.

It seems you posted a variant/home-brew of a blood-dk build.

While sites like Vicious Syndicate obviously don’t analyze your particular home-brew, it is safe to say, they probably feature a more optimal list. Their more optimal list shows a .4952 winrate vs frost-dk at top 1k legend, which is slightly unfavored.

Given your build is almost certainly less optimal than the one posted on VS, your winrate should be lower. If you observe a higher winrate there are two likely explanations:

  • You play against worse opponents, and so neither of you are playing optimally, or perhaps you or playing optimally with this particular variant hence your winrate.

  • There is much RNG in your deck and so it will take a long time for your true winrate to show, and will require many more games.

I know you are thinking there is a 3rd more likely explanation:

  • You found a magical list that does better than VS and you just play it very well.

While possible, I think its unlikely. You can disprove me by hitting 1k legend and consistently posting a high winrate, and I will believe you then.

Stats freely available here for your information: https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/drr/matchup-chart-data-reaper-report/

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Play dk to beat dk, thought we were tired of dks.

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Is this list giving Frostmourne priority over Brann or do I need my eyes tested?

It’s still very possible that his homebrew deck is better at defeating frost deathknight than other versions. The net versions could just be better overall decks for climbing but not necessarily better counters to a specific deck.

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And gets ruined by any control deck

My Reno decks are thriving in this Frost DK meta :grin:

Sure it is possible, but then you would have to have a pretty low opinion of Zacho’s and VS’s ability to choose the best list given the meta, so much so that you’d have to claim they are not aware that one of the only reasons to play blood dk is to do decent vs aggro frost DK (i.e. faceroll DK.)

My opinion of VS is not so low.

It contains Frostmourne…

Which is actually proving to be shockingly good. Still having great success with the deck even now.
Forstmourne has proven very useful in Control match ups as a beat stick or getting more value. It’s not hard to get weapon value with cheat.
This deck might not as good against control the deck is 10x better against Agro and still have over 50% in control games because believe it or not patches/mograine and tons of face damage with weapons actually just lets you close it out.

The only thing I can say though is that mulligan matters. You need to mulligan against frost or blood and how you do does directly affect your chance of winning since against blood you want mograin and patchwerk against frost you want a demolition expert, construct quarter and either blood boil or corpse explosion.

Unlikely the only control deck that really has been giving me trouble is warlock and honestly I don’t think that other blood decks would do well against it either.