Rogue Overpowered?

Whatever Card and or abilities it is allows them to make 15 copies of a card is so overpowered it’s not even funny. Is this a card we can all have? If not it needs to go or be nerfed to one or two copies IMO. Rant ON!!!

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I think rogue would be more than happy to trade their gimmicky shuffling 15 N’zoth or Tess into their deck turn 15+ for some solid board clears.

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If you let a Rogue live till they can discount their n’zoth or scheme, having that scheme in their hand for 10+ turns and played a few deathrattles before playing n’zoth you probably deserved to lose to them. Look at them like a otk combo deck. Also N’zoth Rogue loses to other combo decks almost everytime.

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I play a Priest I have no choice but to last to the end. Rogue is the most overplayed class in the Meta for a reason. The ability to make 15 copies of n’goth needs a nerf period.

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Funny all the different types of Nzoth decks.

Nzoth Priest
Nzoth Rogue
Nzoth Warlock
Nzoth Warrior
Nzoth Hunter <— me right now

There are tons of Rogues out there.

All Hunter needs to do is pressure hard and fit in taps to beat those Rogues.

But I don’t see how any other class except Warlock with Mecha-Cthtun can beat Rogue after they start the Nzoth shuffle.

Rogue is nowhere near the most overplayed class right now…

But yeah, right now you need to be able to:

A: Blow your opponent up before they can enact their gameplan.
B: OTK your opponent in an unavoidable manner.
C: Be able to abuse N’Zoth better than your opponent.

It isn’t the most popular or played class right now. That’s something you can just google and find right away. N’Zoth Rogue is about 3% of the meta right now, absolutely dwarfed by things like Quest Shaman at 15% and even Tempo Mage at 4.6%, not to mention it’s just not nearly as oppressive or dominant as other things that are in more desperate need of attention. Just because a deck beats yours doesn’t mean it’s overpowered. Either adapt to it or settle for the fact that you’ll consistently lose to 3% of the meta.

They aren’t overplayed. That is also their only way to beat priest when priest have 6 total board clears in deck and rogue has none. Imagine rogue has no scheme all you have to do is plague of death his n’zoth board once and it’s over, of course you want it to be that easy.

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Rogue isn’t overpowered its just the Scissors in Rock Paper Scissors. You ant beat rogue with your counter pattern deck.

What does Rogue get every time off the top. If they are that rogue? Burglar, Steal 2 cards, Pharaoh Cat, Vendetta (often x2), Blink Fox, Hench Clan Thug. and then all the beneficial cards from your class to cast spells or minions that will help them own the board.

Now the overwhelm you with the other 100% chance to have off the top 10 of the cards Evil Miscreant and Shadowsteps. Now they won by Midgame if your playing a Paper deck.

The Pharaoh Cat will always give the death rattle reborn taunt gain life minions.

Can confirm as someone who has played Pharaoh Cat in Rogue that this is very much not the case.

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I don’t know where you got your info but your wrong rogue and shaman are the most played characters in the game .

Did you see the link I posted in reply to you?

Depending on which rank brackets you look at, there are always several other classes within 2 or 3 (or sometimes less than 1) percent away from Rogue’s playrate (in fact, Rogue is passed up by Priest in R4-R1) and at all times Shaman has nearly double the presence of Rogue.

Rogue is far, far closer to the other classes in terms of meta representation than Shaman is.

A priests cleans don’t come into play until level 5 and by then I’m dead against a rogue. Ive made it to level 10 but have been stuck because of rogues period. I can win at least 50 50 against other classes but against rogues I may have beat one who messed up. I just want a chance. I cant afford to run multiple classes like some do. I don’t even have all the good priest cards yet. My money likes my pocket too much!!1 :slight_smile:

I hyperlinked my info right there in my post. HSReplay is a data aggregate site that collects millions of games on a weekly basis to approximate decks, matchups, and metas. If HSReplay isn’t your cup of tea, Vicious Syndicate puts Deathrattle Rogue at something between 4 and 6 percent of the meta depending on the rank you’re at. While Rogue is certainly one of the most popular classes, it’s more because of Tempo Rogue than N’Zoth variants (both HSReplay and VS show this). Where are you getting your data from?

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Meta stats dot net shows Shaman number one Rogue number two.

I play a Priest I have no choice but to last to the end.

This is a blatent lie. I play priest too and I’ve been winning most of my games the last few days as early as turn 4 or 5, and as late as turn 8. When you play combo priest infinite Nzoth is irrelevant because the game will be over one way or another before he ever gets a chance to drop. And with two mass dispels teched in to replace the two silences in the standard list, the matchups against infinite nzoth swing very well in your favor. Bonus points for being close to insta win against a few other meta decks (quest droooood) and having very strong matchups against every form of shaman deck.

That doesn’t change anything I said. Shaman is the most popular and Rogue is the second most popular (the sources I provided show this), but as I said, Rogue is in second place more because of Tempo Rogue than N’Zoth Rogue. N’Zoth Rogue, as I mentioned earlier, is only 3% of the meta and generally unpopular.

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yeah, I mainly get Generous Mummy. Those are the games I know I am going to lose.

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The 10+ copies is kind of pointless anyways.

You’re either going to win or get crushed after 2-3 copies at most.

I guess the only thing it does is makes it more likely that you draw some copies.

Rogue can’t maintain a good ‘control deck’ as long as their best AoE is Thalnos + Dan of Wives.

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