Let rogue be good not only in top 1000 legend. Buff some pirates or mechs. Give rogue solid deck which doesnt require 200 iq to be good.
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Legit take. Most great rogue decks lately needed obscene levels of APM and even decision making; we’re not talking of top 1000 levels; I’ve seen decks that only Pocket Train and others on the top TWENTY were playing well.
But on the other hand you don’t have to play only ONE class; maybe we should multi class (in the medium term at least); it’s not like it’s World of Wacraft where you have to grind for gear to even start raiding.
I just dont uderstand why rogue is treated like this. Why devs think its ok for class to have by far lowest winrate in game just because some players from top legend can make semi decent deck for hight legend meta only. Why one class gets useless card expansion after expansion. Why one class gets random staff instead of good consistent cards, why one class gets every new legendary card overpriced?
Stop crying.
You have been heard.
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Equip weapon, buff weapon, hit face = win.
Trading weapon into minions is strictly forbidden.
Enjoy
EDIT: Seriously, though, if you can’t progress ranks with this, you should go see a doctor or two
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Love this deck. Love how u lose vs each and every BSM. but dont worry its only 25% of ladder
Yeah, but you win against most of the others, clean
For example, it’s 60-40 counter to Painlock, which allegedly counters mage and the ladder is full of it
It’s OK into many aggro/midrange decks, and mostly loses to hard tempo and reno decks, although with a good curve it’s literally unbeatable.
I’ve seen it buff weapon to 20 on turn 4 - together with dmg from turns 2 and 3, this is enough to kill any deck in the game most of the time.
Im playing mostly vs warriors/death knights and BSM. no painlocks at all. This decks works only in diaomond and above. Exactly what i was talking about.
That’s completely nonsensical reasoning xD
If a deck is good in higher ranks, it should be even better in lower ranks
If you’re better than your opponents, prove it.
Just compare decks popularity in different ranks and you will understand. For exaple: in top 1000 legend 5% players - warriors. In D 1 to 4 - its 9.5% warriors. For warlocks - 11.8% warlocks in top 1000 and in D1-4 its only 7.2%. This means in lower ranks u will face bad matchups more often and lose more.
And it sometimes even beats BSM because it gets enough weapon damage in before they tsunami that the rogue can finish the job with spells.
It loses to Demon Hunter and Shaman too
If you can go wide early, weapon decks struggle because they dont want to have to trade
Not my experience, no
They just deafen/insta pop your MVP minions and ignore the rest, while building up around 2.5 dmg per mana every turn
I’m losing to it with all of my warlock decks regularly, both shamans (evolve + rainbow) and losing to it with mage.
I don’t know what counters the deck, but it’s not aggro decks going wide xD
Pirate demon hunter and rainbow shaman both have a slight advantage.
Pain Warlock of course is going to get wrecked by this deck xD
Going wide has always been a counter to weapon decks.
I will grant that it is less effective now with how fast decks are in general, but it is still a strategy that works
Just think about it, if insanity and sludgelock can’t deal with it even with ramped up Crazed Conductor on 4, it’s pointless
Even mage has to highroll to win xD If they bring out the combo turn 5, instead of 4, it might be too late - and that’s only because of freeze, not neccessarily because of going wide
Warlock loses because self damage plus enemy burn is a recipe for disaster for the warlock
Weapon rogue cant trade efficiently vs wide boards
Thats why DH beats it
Shaman wins by going wide too, but the fact that its taunt minions make 2 taunts (2 4/5 or 2 2/4) is what helps it get around the silences
I would wager any elemental deck would be favored because they go wide and run glacial shard
Any fast deck that would tech glacial shard into their deck would beat it too
You gotta have a “you cant face me if im facing you!” Mentality vs a deck like this xD
Weapon rogue is essentially a glass cannon. The deck does 1 thing. It runs damage and draw basically. No value, no sustain. If you can disrupt its game plan for 1 turn while developing a board you are most likely going to win because the deck needs to finish the game before you kill them as they try to ignore your minions as much as they think they can get away with it.
Glacial shard is better than viper for 2 reasons vs this deck:
It is cheaper so you can develop other minions along side of it
It guarantees they cant swing on the following turn, if you viper they are likely to just dagger up and buff the new dagger and just swing again.
You really dont need to disrupt them more than 1 or 2 turns because they are fragile and in most cases if they cant kill you, they die on the backswing. Especially if you time your disruption well
I have been performing very well against BSM using a reno rogue
Bad take (and I don’t mean the recurring malignant egotism). That’s not the best deck currently. A mech is AAECAaIHBrb2Ber6BY6WBsekBvTJBszhBgz3nwTZ0AXe0AW/9wWm+AXm+gWh/AXn/QW5/gXLngaVyganygYAAQPxswbHpAbyswbHpAbu3gbHpAYAAA==
and it even kills mages.