Rogue has so much potential, the thief mechanics have always been very interesting, but it’s incredibly weak at the moment. The whole secret package for rogue at the moment is currently unplayable and terrible. Amalgam rogue has zero draw and feels like you’re playing the most awful clumsy deck with no real end value. Miracle rogue is the only rogue deck on ladder with some hope, but it doesn’t exactly make use of rogues potential. Tempo rogue is completely dead, control rogue is dead, secret rogue is dead. There is one archetype that shows any strength on ladder (miracle) and even then its only tier 3 at best. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I actually preferred the lackey rogue over what we have now. Rogues threats feel so limited and clunky, and it’s dissappointing because rogue has so much potential to use it’s all fun mechanics and also be good… NOT having only 1 viable archetype and that still being the lowest WR% on HSreplay…
I’m not following the problem. Seems like it’s working as intended.
Miracle rogue is just fine when played well, solidly in T2 according to the stuff I have seen.
If you’re just looking at overall stats on HSReplay you aren’t getting a good indication of the health of anything.
Yeah this. Rogue is okay. Not a top performer, but a skilled player makes good results. I remember hooktusk rogues giving me a lot of trouble (and losses) when I was playing Relic DH a month ago.
Rogue seems like it will always be played by the top of the meta unless it is just really that bad.
Rogue seems to have this issue that when it’s good enough to be T1 in D5 and lower, it’s so dominant at top 1k that it gets nerfed.
Rogues problem is that is has gotten like 3 dead sets, it only has basically concoctjons at the moment with the location. Nothing new that is competitive
Control Rogue? There hasn’t been a control Rogue deck since 2015
It’s basically pre mini set mage.
So it’s fine by people on the forums.
Not that i personally agree but if i had to pass by that you should too.
Excuse me, you shouldnt say such things if you havent even played the game the past year.
Rogue has been absolutely obnoxious since sunken city and before that too. Miracle rogue, deathrattle rogue, stupid turn 5 32 damage dagger rogue. Where have you been to say such a thing?
Miracle Rouge is incredible strong when mastered. It can win any matchup with the help of astalor, graveyard and concoctions. It’s the deck that got me to legend this season with 15 consecutive wins from diamond to legend.
I have played the game, and those were sets that rotated and have been nerfed, no more big weapon and no more deathrattle.
What i am saying is rogue has gotten notbing good in the past couple of sets, and the rotation shows it, all rogue has now is the same miracle deck it has had forever, and i know rogue very well.
Then you know hanar is around. Tess is around. Secrets exist. Location still exists. Concoctions. Preps, steps, astalors.
Work it out. Just because rogue cant make a 15/15 stealth ghost AND a 17 damage dagger turn 5 doesnt mean the class has nothing. But its just such a rogue argument, opponent needs to die turn 6 or the class sucks.
I dunno, i dont really see it. I have seen the pop off turns from players using it from d5 to 3k legend now. And you know what?
those huge stat ghosts are very answerable now
Seriously, I’ve been witnessing miracle rogues start the game with DOUBLE LOCATION, and they proceed to pop off on turn 4, make 2 ghosts over 10/10+ with a side of 4/4 rush. Aaaand, well, I cleared them. So 2 turns later, he does it again, 2 10/10+ ghosts. So I clear them again.
This happens several games, and its kinda consistent. Dropping 2 thaddius’s worth of stats just isnt enough to win games these days.
This is the best thing happened with rogue - be on the bottom of the food chain, you can’t understand how many people HATE this class with it’s stupied turn table gameplay.
I have never been a fan of this version of miracle rogue the big ghosts and big daggers. And yes i am well aware of everything ya said. What i am saying is that people mainly play miracle rogue still because that is all rogue really has right now due to having poor sets right now. Secret rogue aint good, thief rogue aint good (too many bad spells in the jackpot pool) , comvo rogue isnt good, pirate rogue aint good enough.
If they really wanted combo rogue to be good with what they gave rogue, they needed to give rogue cards like that pirate that dealsnone damage for each card played and wand thief, and take cards like the 3/2 draw two minions out of the pool.
Thief rogue was good last meta. Tricky rogue decks are fun to play but gets too much complaint and gets destroyed right away.
Currently all the rogue decks are trash and strongest rogue deck is boring. it doesn’t worth playing so rogue is a dead class in this meta.
Agreed, my only ever 11 star bonus i got was with deathrattle rogue, that was a fun deck, the one with crabby and neptulon.
It had its time to shine. It’s still playable, but it’s good to have a fluctuation.