He’s just been lost in the meta for a few years now, and he was impressed that he hadn’t played for years and got legend so easily, he also doesn’t know that the matchmaking system was changed, so he attributed his easy matches to renathal and no to his low mmr for not playing for years.
Nowadays there are so many card draws that you don’t need to worry about 10 extra cards in the deck, as I usually play control decks, I use Renathal just for the 10 extra life, because if I don’t die in the early game I’ll probably my chances of winning the match shoot to the moon, so having 10 more lives makes a difference
what are the top aggro decks in the current meta nowadays??? evolve shaman and pirate dh?
and what has changed with the matchmaking system?? tbh yeah the opponents i met in matchmaking were easy for me
I’m not interested in aggro, I don’t even know what the current aggro decks are.
but about the matchmaking system, before you were placed with people who were in the same rank as you, now it’s ± like league of legends, you have an MMR, and you fall with people with an MMR similar to yours regardless of their rank, like you haven’t played for many years, your MMR is probably low, as you picked up a legend last month, probably this month you should start falling against ok/good opponents
i played a few matches from bronze to gold earlier i have noticed i am playing against stronger opponents and better decks, but still not many of them uses renathal this time save for big spell mage and few control warriors
Many people also use Renathal just for nostalgia’s sake, during his time he was meta, many people loved playing with him during his time, so they’re going to play with him now, because he won’t stay in the standard forever, it’s only for 1 month.
How petty for people to see an OP talking about going legend, and they have to make them feel miserable because their true purpose isn’t discussion here but “winning” even if it’s a forum
Just let him have his thoughts; the legend remark is completely irrelevant; it has nothing to do with the topic of Renathal and the thinning of decks one bit.
People always account for the 10 extra cards thinning out their good draws, but they always seem to forget that this coin has two sides - you have 10 more cards in the deck, so you also have more combos available, which neutralizes the draw thinning at least partly.
That cancels out. The ability to combo also lowers. This topic is more interesting when special things happen related to fatigue like milling decks being obviously better on renathal if they also mill the miller’s deck.
Why I haven’t seen rogue with Renathal yet they are arguably has the strongest card draw(rogue is not a control class though) some of the rogues I have encountered were weapon ones. I do think that deck is solid. Tbh, I couldn’t imagine any win condition with Renathal deck to be solid
It’s kinda sad they killed aggro for the past season hope aggro will make a comeback because I like variety in terms of playing and facing decks in ranked
It all goes down to How combo centric a metagame is and sincerely ours are on the more comboey side of the spectrum.
But i think that blizzard also done the correct thing by bringing him because it is a card that people Will always try regardless of powerlevel and what shapes a metagame is popularity and not Power in itself.
As for renathal decks. Whatever.
I believe the 10 health balances out playing a 40 cards deck and that a 40 card deck will very rarely be better than a 30 one without that type of upside and therefore the extra 10 health is more of a handcap for playing a worse deck.
Also aggro death is exageratted. Most people Just did not want to deal with renathal but i stay find aggro players in legend past month and not a small number.
“In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.”
You’re ignoring a lot, like the extra health and the relative NEED to draw a certain card for different decks. Again, look at the ACTUAL numbers–how the decks are playing in the meta. XL BSM is a top tier deck for a reason.
I think all ya’all are overthinking it a little with that mage using renathal. The deck was just extremely sensitive to other fast decks; e.g. I was obliterating it with a flood pala most of the time; I was seeing in stats pirates and pain locks were also destroying it EASILY.
But there’s a catch with those decks; they run out of steam easily if they go late game or even mid game; renathal easily pushes them being late.
the two decks that are the best at running Renathal, Control Warrior and Ramp Druid, both have more than enough tutor/draw to not really care (and in fact want) the extra cards. As far as other archetypes, it’s likely mostly just for fun.
Yeah I encountered them way more frequently when I hit legend probably due to people not caring about being competitive at legend rank compared to diamond