Reno the Lone Ranger requires a HUGE Nerf

Highlander is in the game to drive spending of resources and nothing else.

The payouts must be meta warping power levels or no one would ever use them, and here we are with a meta warped around highlander payouts.

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Were it up to me, the card would be deleted.
Team 5 should just issue a full refund along with an apology.

Mallen you are one of the few forumers that i respect…
For being a man of principles, just like the guy that main druid and doesnt use guff, and for that reason alone i will agree that maybe reno does to much,
I was playing my big pally and getting it going is hard enough
to get really frustrated when a reno just suddenly disappears your board…
I liked more when you could play around it with the darkness, albatross, etc., but now you eat it no matter what.
So the change i would make to it would be only: “if your deck didn’t start and doesn’t have repeated cards…”

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I don’t think board resets or table flip cards should exist.
And imo there are a great many in this game now.
No one card should have the power to win from a losing position.
No one card should be able to reverse ten minutes of bad plays.
Other people say I want to take the game back to Yeti days, but I say that is exaggeration.
What I want is a game of ebbs and flows, that a good player can capitalize on.
Right now, We have a game where players can ignore curve, mana management, and positioning altogether, and still win.
Draw is only a handicap for the classes team 5 neglects,
and even they get crippled draw, like discover.
Reno needs to either be changed or be removed.
There is no handicap to the highlander format, particularly in wild. Were it up to me this card and renethal would both be gone.

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After saying something like that, what defense would you have against someone who says that Mage should be deleted from the game?

Highlander is not a class though, is it?
It is a playstyle which used to be powerful, at the cost of not being consistent.
That is no longer the case. The deck is no longer handicapped by the single card restriction, thanks to the sheer amount of draw these days.
You need a stronger comparison, I think.
If you had said: “Delete Secret decks in all classes from the game”, that would be far closer.

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The point is that it’s a completely ridiculous thing to say

He got you on a Venn diagram technicality xD

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I don’t follow, and tbh I don’t care. They’re never going to outright delete Highlander anyway and the hope that they do is so stupid AND hateful that it doesn’t deserve discussion

Playstyle/highlander set > class set

If you wanted to beat him, you should have said “what if someone said delete the whole tempo playstyle”, because tempo is his preferred playstyle

Well, something like that, maybe burn? Dunno, nothing is exactly the same width as Highlander

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I don’t want to beat him. I’m disgusted that a friend would say something so stupid and hateful.

Precisely. Highlander is a playstyle that no longer works the way it was intended, thanks to draw.
And his comparison was invalid.

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Not only that, but the general quality of cards has risen. Less pack filler is being made, and we get free neutrals all the time. I imagine that in Wild, Highlander is literally nothing of a hindrance unless you have super specific win-cons that require multiples.

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Wild Highlander is just as reliable as any deckstyle. It really only loses to super fast decks, which all classes cannot run.

What I said wasn’t hateful. We are discussing a card game.
And the playstyle no longer has the same handicap it once did.
And friends can disagree, and still be friends.
At least; this one can.

Don’t take his comment seriously.
He is misdirecting because he knows he was wrong.

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Kite his reno if you know you’re up against one. Hold off on your win condition cards till after. Avarage reno will play it when the board is full or a fat taunt is in the way.

Spoken like a Reno advocate who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

Evem if you do manage to bait out Reno you still lose a whole lot of value (when they only play 1 card) and oractically have to skip a turn. While they do a perfect one-sided board wipe and heal and basically force you to skip your turn.

Sure, sure, your argument has valor. It works for the deck i used, thats why i made the suggestion not thinking that the player above isn’t running the same deck. You mustn’t be rude, i will backstab your lunch money. :kissing_heart:

The most OP card in standard right now. Complete board wipe, silences all deathrattles, gain 5 armor, gain powerful hero power, opponent has to skip next turn (essentially). And can’t be countered by shuffling things into your opponents deck anymore. Ridiculous.

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