Both are mana cheating cards that with the right setup get you more mana back than you invested. It’s not the draw that is problematic but the mana cheating aspect.
In wild you can play it for 0 mana and get + 4 back, whereas Big Priest with only spells in hand will gain a net amount of 4 mana as well (ofc those were extreme cases)
Being able to +1 before you play your turn is powerful, and you can do it on curve. Getting -1 on spells is powerful, but it’s not at the same level. Priest doesn’t even have like a wacky combo, or a lot of really reliably card draw to take advantage of it.
In standard, that’s why I said nobody cares for it. In wild, however, that’s simply not true. It enable turn 4 shadow essence… which generally means “I win”. Furthermore it enables 0 mana spells which you can use to test counterspell or oh my yogg. Just because Priest is trash in standard doesn’t make the card any less powerful.
I was talking about standard. And Priest isn’t trash in standard, that has nothing to do with it.
Priest is tier four in Legend with a 45.32% winrate in standard.
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It has everything to do with it. Because, if Priest were busted in standard the card would be nerfed. From a wild Priest player’s perspective a weak Priest in standard is good, as long as some op cards are printed (cuz no nerf of these op cards)
I don’t give a damn. That’s not even what this topic is about. Christ.
I apologize, I just wanted to point out it could be doing better. 
Palm Reading isn’t even close to needing a nerf in standard. And even if priest “weren’t trash” that doesn’t mean the card would need a nerf when the class doesn’t have noteworthy combos or card generation.
Palm Reading, 46.5% mulligan winrate, 47.5% drawn winrate. This is reflective of just how bad priest is performing right now. The class is in need of serious help.
Every single class is being forced down by Paladin. This topic isn’t about how good or bad priest is.
Discussions can expand beyond the scope of an OP. But, back to RSW.
Ofc it isn’t, that’s the whole point…
It’s one of the best Priest cards currently in standard. If Priest were tier1 and had an enabler card like shadow essence (in mage dol is the enabler), it would be nerfed. Alas, Priest isn’t.
Btw, refreshing water doesn’t need a nerf in standard either. The only reason it is so good atm is because of deck of lunacy. It’s a solid tier 2 deck, so water shouldn’t be nerfed.
However, the card is quite problematic in wild, that’S why I still ask for a nerf. (and I am currently playing the problematic deck)
Well I’m not interested in having this conversation for the upteenth time as some point about how Refreshing Spring Water isn’t busted as hell.
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That’s fine, but RSW isn’t busted. At all. Is that your position?
I mean yes it is. 0 mana, draw 2 is not even remotely fair.
It’s one of the best Priest cards currently in standard. If Priest were tier1 and had an enabler card like shadow essence (in mage dol is the enabler), it would be nerfed. Alas, Priest isn’t.
It doesn’t matter if you have an enabler or not, being able to draw 2 cards and THEN make a big tempo play isn’t reasonable. And Standard Mage has enough burn to make plenty of deck’s lives hell.
The problem is RSW combined with DoL in a no minion mage deck. Alone, RSW is fine as its stats reflect.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good card. 58 mulligan and drawn winrates. But, this is reflective of no minion mage’s success right now, too.
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Ofc it’s fair. That’s the current power level of HS in 2021. Rogue has a similar card, and aggro rogue is only tier 2 at best in standard.
But that isn’t op at all. I could argue that Palm reading into palmreading/renew gets you 2 more cards as well, if you have a card draw/generating fetish. Many decks like face hunter or said aggro rogue deck can easily beat the current lunacy mage deck. It’s weak to aggro since it lacks healing/armor and has no more good aoe.
But yeah no minion mage beats tickatus… so…
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Cutting Class requires a 5+ attack weapon. That’s a lot of set up, both in terms of deck building and the cards you draw. The downside to Refreshing Sprint Water is either getting lucky with drawing spells (if you’re not running all spells – though Mage decks are predominately spells either way), or running a deck with all spells. But running a deck with all spells isn’t really enough of a downside.
Yes, if they sufficiently nerf spell heavy mage decks enough it won’t be a problem card because the deck won’t be a problem. A similar thing happened with Fungal Fortunes.
Before the nitroboost poison that wasn’t the case at all. And what setup? The cards needed for the “setup” were the best card to go face anyway.
Ofc it is. You even get a specific payoff card for it, called “apex blast.”
Without font of power, you have 0 early game pressure. That’s why you die against most aggro decks (together with the fact that the deck lacks defense).
Nerfing the best card of the deck is typically enough, see nitroboost poison.