A couple month ago i noticed once you hit a certain rank you get only meta decks, previously Platin 5 and currently Gold 10 at the ladder. I am only playing custom shaman decks and they are really bad once you hit the meta with top decks only.
Is there a way to see at what rank it really starts? i don’t wanna play 10 frustrating games with zero wins. Maybe 3 games is enough? is it shifting at the end of month?
In my experience, only from D5 to legend you will face 99,999% meta decks.
In the previous rank is it possible to find someone with low tier decks, old decks or even “wtf is this?”, but meta decks are also common.
If you have a bonus star at gold 10, i suggest you to keep trying to climb with your custom decks; if you really want to climb, you are not forced to use a meta deck, but it is probably easier to use a good class (I’m not saying shaman isn’t good, it’s just a general statement); good expecially against other meta classes.
The only mode where you can find variety it’s casual. The best part: if the opponent is a priest, you can concede anytime you want without feeling bad!
Today I found a quest priest, with “spirit of the dead”, karthoot and the spell that summons 2 copies of it when it dies. I knew my deck didn’t have a chance agaist that play so “I said no and left”; casual is the mode where everyone wins, even when you lose!
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Unranked may be the place if all you want is easier opponents. Every 3rd player plays Goldshire Footman, every mage is no-minion, every priest is Rez priest, etc. Decks are on average tier 4 or worse. A homebuilt Shaman deck does just fine; I’ve actually made one of my own and crushed unranked with it.
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This is your experience because you haven’t won that much in unranked. The truth is that unranked is using a mmr system just like the ranked systems legend ladder, which means you have a hidden mmr/rank that will pair you with others who have won just as much, meaning that this gets probably just as hard as the ladder at some point.
The hidden mmr was what made me start my the legend grind back when it was actually hard get legend. (these days it’s a welfare legend everyone can get) I won so much that i started getting matched vs players with legend card backs in the unranked mode that I thought that I might as well just play ranked and so I did.
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Man I have like a 100 - 20 record or something. How much do you have to win in casual before that would change???
you’re honestly just that good. Rank 1 legend is yours for the taking. Go go.
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Shaman is the worst class by a mile. Play something else.
I feel like your sarcasm is missing my point: that record is due to the enormous quantity of garbage decks in casual, and I’m questioning the argument that mmr actually goes any further up from where I am as I’m over a hundred games in.
I don’t expect to face equivalent opponents to my ladder rank, but I’m not seeing any indication that meta decks EVER appear with much frequency in casual no matter how high your MMR is.
I will say getting my face wrecked by a turn 6 Mozaki combo was pretty entertaining, though.
I rarely see meta decks in casual but they’re floating around. I figure it’s people trying a new deck on for size before diving in with the sharks. I’ve been doing that lately hoping to get a feel for secret miracle rogue.
As someone who for a time played almost exclusively casual, I seem to have a pretty high MMR in casual.
I played several games with gimmick deck to get my quests knocked out (it’s basically just dragons) I faced a bomb warrior, libram paladin, and a turtle mage. They were very much meta decks.
But idk how fast or nimble MMR is, I just know I see some strong decks in casual.
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I didn’t say you don’t see strong decks. I said meta decks. There’s a difference.
I rarely bump into face hunter, lube paladin, or guardian druid. Certainly not “never.” When I see a Mata deck they’re typically the more complex decks like secret rogue or turtle mage. I do see more of them during GM season, that’s for sure.
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Bomb warrior, libram paladin, and turtle mage aren’t meta decks?
I’m not sure you’re reading what I write. Not only did I not say that I never see them, I reiterated that I didn’t say I never see them.
What I’m saying is: yes, they’re there. They’re also rare.
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And I literally said I played three of them in a row last night… they are all I see ever in casual. I don’t see wonky meme decks unless they are someone doing what I do and playing a quest deck - like every minion is taunt or the deck is all spells or whatever the condition is for the quest.
And you literally took issue with the decks I listed by saying
So I asked if you considered those decks to be meta decks because your quote above implied that you didn’t.
I felt the same, lol.
Also, it’s sometimes difficult to separate topics in the same post and understand inflection when reading forum posts. I am just trying to back up to where the misunderstanding happened. There’s no condescension or malice here, lol.
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I have a record of 10-1 with highlander shirvalla valanyr paladin.
The one loss was because my opponent had a name I didn’t like so I conceded (believe it or not).
Pretty easy to win, but it’s fun: I am not winning because I have top tier deck, but because many opponents don’t even have a deck (30 cards aren’t necessary a deck 
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If this is true, I hope to never find those players with a meta deck: that would ruin the whole point of playing casual
Blizzard said even non legend rank matchmaking is MMR based rather then solely rank based.
In my experience you still face opponents close to your visual rank, but probably close to you in MMR aswell.
I do not think your rank matters very much if you have are a decent player at all you will end up facing meta decks.
I think the majority of the player base plays netdecks nowadays which is sad but it is what is.
Don’t think you can avoid queueing into them without conceding every 2nd game.
spend money and pay for meta decks. good luck!
I have to assume we either have different experiences or different mental filters over those experiences. Both are equally likely.
Neither of us seems to have hard data, only personal accounts. We’re probably both right.
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And they are not mutually exclusive, either.
Agreed, lol.
As a side note: Isn’t intentionally bypassing the profanity filters a bannable ToS violation? I’m not sure how that name of the player who posted immediately before your previous post is allowed.
I have no idea what the rule is. Live and let live is my motto. “Bitsh” ain’t exactly the worst thing in the world. IMO the original form of the word is fine. Profanity is just another use of language. It’s how it’s used that should provoke rules violations.
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