Really surprised by the Tsunami change and now lack of good 8 cost spell for GPO. I guess it gives you a 10 cost spell to copy lol.
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Itâs limited by board space so I donât think it will be as crazy as it sounds.
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Did you guys really think Blizzard will listen to its players ?
Out of countless suggestions ⌠none were taken, except maybe the +1 mana cost on the lamplighter.
The nerfs dont change much, the unkilliax is still there, lamplighter does the same thing almost, mage got shat upon, seems T5 is doomed to repeat its history. I wonder if any of them even play the game aside the playtesting that every dev does.
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In Soviet Blizzard, buffed card costs more
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Cool, have fun with elementalstone. Iâm out
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concierge nerf to 4 mana is matter to druid when fight go longer you cant combine whit owlonius w/o make you max mana to 11 âwhen you draw poor to kill enemy earlierââŚand yes some net deck do not use it but is work very well in me list
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If the only thing itâs good for is 0-mana spells, itâs not worth having in the game.
We already learned this lesson with Sorcererâs Apprentice.
0-mana damage spells should not be easily achievable.
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We laugh, but this massively buffs spell-only mage and big spell mage.
But the biggest winner: chaotic tendies is back!
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The buys at Team 5 offices are smoking some good stuff.
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No, this is a totally capitalist move.
Tsunami costs more, but you get another elemental.
This is the classic capitalist move of getting people to buy more than they really need. Buy one get one free! Buy one second one is X% off! Spend at least $Y and we throw this in! Refer a friend and get a gift! etc
Capitalism, just like HS, preys on greed. Look! Shiny legendaries! New OP cards! Buy more packs! Ops we just nerfed some stuff, well buy more packs so you can chase the next OP thing!
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The lesson with sorcererâs apprentice is more about the type of cards than the cost.
But It isnât even worth to discuss this with the hearthstone equivalent of a cultist.
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âŚlol?
What are you on about now?
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âUncle Joe did nothing wrong.â
Ok tankie
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Note how theyâre not using ânerfsâ and âbuffsâ anymore, theyâre using the phrase âadjusted to be weaker/strongerâ
Thatâs also telling, in a way
I have to admit, Iâm happy to see them change the tactic and finally start changing card texts, rather than mana costs only. This patch is full of them.
Itâs a step in the right direction.
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I have never seen a concierge druid use or have time for owlonius. The nerf changes nothing really.
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Lol, no, not really. Sunset Volley can damage opponent even if you cannot summon so you can easily output 30-40 damage. With Tsunami where is the ceiling? You cast Tendril on empty board you you deal 12 damage max if opponent has no board, and then you can play another Tendril to summon one more elemental? So at best itâs 15 damage. Yeah, I bet people will try it but it sounds nothing like Tendrils of yore.
Other than that this patch is a perfect exemplification of Team 5 balance philosophy: ad or subtract 1-2 mana and leave the card as problematic/useless as it was. Do we really think that 5 mana Ryecleaver will be any less a meme? Will Chia Drake be less powerful with -1/-1? Sad panda.
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A LOT less powerful, bro, a lot less. Even just the health reduction from 5 to 4 means a lot, because in this game/meta, 5 is the cutoff point where most of the removals stop working and you need special payoff cards to deal with them. But when you add to that 1 less dmg, it stops trading with some of the 2 drops now, lol. Idk about you, but my winrate will now jump from 56% against Druid to 60% just because of that one change.
Not quite. Both warrior payoff cards have been neutralized with text changes, and I suspect some of the mana cost nerfs will prove to be detrimental for some of the cards
P.S. When is this live??
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what it tells me is that they donât even try to hide their bias and favoritism anymore.
So, I take it mage is dead in Standard again? What a shock. never would have predicted it.
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Nobodyâs talking about Joe Biden or Joseph Stalin or Higashikata Joesuke except you (which Uncle Joe are you referring to?)
I was talking about Bliz/Activision, an American for profit company, privately owned by capitalists, doing what for profit companies are known to do.
You attribute what Bliz does to the Soviets, but like⌠see above. Bliz isnât Russian or Chinese. Bliz/Activision are not state owned.
It seems to me youâre projecting. You cannot perceive that capitalism can have faults, so you attribute anything you donât like about what a capitalist company (Bliz) is doing to the Soviets.
Ditto for the tankie remark. Me being able to point at the fault for one ideology does not mean that Iâm automatically a radical for another supposedly opposite ideology. That you act as such says more about your own extremism.
Whatever weirdo.
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The Lamplighter nerf really only affects the rogueâs ability to use Sonya on it with shadowstep. It is still a very powerful card that has the same problem. However, after playing elemental shaman against several DKs in legend after seeing zero on ladder, the answer to elemental seems to be just put on more pressure than they do.
Concierge nerf to 4 mana does virtually nothing and does not address the problem it causes nor the cards/combo it enables.
Iâm not sure what the correct change to chia drake would have been, but making it a 2/4 doesnât change what makes it a truly powerful card. It still enables the problem of the above card (concierge) by giving spell power or access to combo pieces very easily. Even in dragon druid the card was probably the highlight of the deck.
Glad to see the zilliax changes in general, I donât have much to say because Iâm not sure how much it will change things. Iâve already seen a shift to deathrattle bot warrior instead.
I donât know how other decks stack up, but something I wasnât seeing on ladder as opposed to legend is corpsickle and deathrattle DK. Corpsickle I have seen before and wasnât too difficult to deal with. But Deathrattle DK has some combo potential that feels like a different flavor concierge druid, and not in good way.
Maybe consider bringing back the neutral AoE silence minion.
Overall Iâm happy with the changes, itâs better than nothing. However, as many other people have also stated, the balance/dev team doesnât understand that just adjusting the cost or stats of a card does not address the issues of its mechanics.
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