Narrow but powerful, indeed.
Some buffs, some replacements… RIP PW:S, but I can already feel the salt flowing from everyone who overcommits into Shadow Word: Ruin lol
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Rest in Peace, Shadowform…
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Shadowform should have just been buffed to 2 mana. I would have loved that class to have pushed into an aggressive or damaged based control. I am guessing they’re just HoFing it?
No word on what is rotating out aside from Velen, but Shadowform would absolutely fall into the category of “archetypes we have no intent of supporting.”
They could have buffed it, in this wave. Choosing not to makes me 100% convinced they’re giving it the boot.
I’d actually wonder about Holy Fire, as well, given the change to Smite not being able to go face. Direct damage to face seems to not be a Priest thing anymore.
I hope devoutly that DS/IF goes away.
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SW: Ruin is going to start a whole slew of complaint threads, if it hasn’t already.
Natalie looks really good - seems versatile: I could see myself having some fun with that.
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Along with Velen, I am certain they’re going to toss Inner Fire and/or Divine Spirit into that pool as well. No way they can put Power Infusion along with the iconic duo in the same kit and have people simply think it won’t be a complained topic in the future.
Natalie definitely feels like the Vol’jin type card but more versatile. Glad it keeps the control flavor intact, and the flexibility of it being a removal means it’ll probably see more play as a whole than Velen did.
SW Ruin is very surprising at 4 mana. Understandably Light Bomb is still probably better, but the value of SW Ruin can really peak in the ideal conditions.
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I don’t disagree that Priest needed an overhaul but I also feel like they might be going a bit backwards.
“Here’s bunch of removal and buffs for your minions!”
“Here’s some subpar minions that can be silenced, and removed! Here’s 1 or 2 minions that are exactly what you need but good luck drawing them!”
That’s where I see this going.
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SW:R feels like the perfect other half to the newly 4-mana Holy Nova, which is excellent anti-Aggro/Token on a very crucial turn.
Priest finally has a solid base of removal/wipes for any situation. They don’t each address every situation, but it can now form a base to attack whatever type of meta there is.
1 and 2 mana spot removal in Smite and SW:D
4 mana wipes in Nova and SW:R.
I look forward to seeing how they build Priest from here on out.
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I see it more as that Priest will need to use neutral minions like it always does, and the basic and classic minions and spells included is to supplement the class in establishing a board. Priest never got good neutral minions under the 5 mana curve other than a few pieces here and there that were either tribal or synergistic for specific decks. Cards like Kul Tiran and PWShield can put value to any 1 drop and trade favorably while Shadow Madness, Holy Nova, and Holy Smite will do better in controlling minions due to their buffs. As long as there are decent early drops for the neutral, Priest can use that to their advantage.
In the end, tempo is what will keep Priest as a class relevant, not value. Value should come in trades and momentum, not removals and clutches.
This could be fake. Blizzard hasn’t registered the domain name they gave in the article. This could be an elaborate hoax.
This is quite a lot of effort for a credible website to provide false information. Leaks happen all the time.
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Also Holy nova no longer hits face, subtle change but seems unnecessary.
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Hoaxes do happen, but I don’t see Polygon coming up with one.
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Its just odd they didn’t register the domain, they;ve done it for every single other expansion and that’s typically how we verify a leak like this. This is incredibly elaborate though.
It could be titled slightly differently. We’ll find out tomorrow, but this seems wayyyyy too high-effort to only generate clicks ONE day ahead of the announcement.
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I don’t think Polygon is in on it if it is a hoax, I think they also got tricked if anything
If it’s Outland, the year’s name makes more sense. However, the teaser image now makes less sense, IMO.
This is all pretty exciting, but I’m still a bit skeptical. Let’s start with the good stuff.
The cards look good. I’m a little worried that Ruin is going to miss too many things at 4 mana. Holy Nova? Better, but for example there’s a potential 0 cost 3/3 in the meta right now. It still seems weak to me, but maybe Priest will be able to leverage an early game and have something to heal with it now? The healing portion has always just seemed worthless, making the card overcosted.
Scarlet Subjugator is interesting, a tool that should’ve been been added to the core set a while ago. 1 mana cost is pretty great. Soon you’ll all work for the Cabal. Psychic Conjurer is also cool, not sure if I’m happy or unhappy that it’s a Battlecry card compared to the old elemental being a deathrattle. Chaplain for a mini-Kabal Talonpriest is interesting.
RIP PW: Shield, unless some kind of Auctioneer deck happens.
Power Infusion? Haha, now we’ve got a core card that power creeps an expansion card. PW: Tentacles really was just awful, wasn’t it?
Smite is fantastic, pretty happy about that with Penance being a temporary card.
And the big one. The quote explaining why Velen is rotating, and being replaced by Bigger Vol’jin. It hurts to see Velen go, but I’ve been ranting up and down the forums in the past about Velen just not fitting the class anymore. They took away all of his synergies, he was a dead card in the non-rotating Legendary spot. It had to happen, and I’m not upset about Natalie Seline. Seems like a fine card.
But the problem. The problem. Well, the problem is that none of this (except maybe Chaplain) looks like it goes in anything. AOE, sure, whatever, we’ll run it. But the problem that remains is that the power cards in the class are Psychopomp and Mass Res. Galakrond might have some potential as a finisher, but I’m still skeptical about it ever being worth running enough Invokes and Death coming down to 2 mana makes Time Rip even harder to justify.
The problem is how do you win? Priest’s card generation is still inferior to what most other classes can do. It’s hard to picture the class getting away from Res Priest, so it’s a shame that the new Legendary has no place in such a deck. I don’t have much hope for a Tempo deck surpassing Res. I know these are just core cards, but I don’t think they’re going to really give the class a direction.
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To be fair I not think we gonna have any direction too.
Not get me wrong but the problem isn’t otk decks.
The problem is priest set is situational card over a situational card.
With that said we’re is shadow priest?
It is really easy to say that it was in the “to much effort so we are cutting it” category.
Not get me wrong but this should actually be an entire set of new cards and not an overhaul.