Old archetypes needs to be nerfed

Everyone know by now that the new cards are underwhelming and are asking for buffs to the new quests.

But why not nerf some old decks which are not healthy for the meta from the beginning? Especially Drunk Paladin and Starship decks, which have been plaguing the meta for quite a long time. And maybe the menagerie jug, which has also been dominating for quite a while.

I haven’t mentioned all cards that need to be fixed, but you get the idea.

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Then just make standard a “last expansion only” mode.

I have proposed ideas like this before.
I think Standard pools should be reduced, and Standard cards should not be usable in Wild until rotation, but that is just me, I guess.

The issue with changing how standard works is blizzard.

Are they ready to stop the protectionism towards standard?

Because last time we had a different ladder other than standard they did hear everyone except the public that wanted twist.
Basically making twist “standard but worse”.

They literally could not tell standard players wanting the standard experience on twist to just let twist players in peace instead of demand balance change “a la standard”.

Telling customers their purchases will be usable in standard for 14-24 months (depending on the time of the year), then nerfing them into the ground will cause demands for cash refunds/full dust refunds.

Option two is to just eat for a year, this year, where they are bringing down the power level of everything new.

You know they aren’t going to take a real money hit, so old content shadowing over today is what is going to happen.

Such a lower powerlevel…

Seriously.
Just stop the jokes.

Cards there have a powerlevel as high as ever but people are so infatuated trying to make quests work at any cost that luckily they don’t perceive.

Also just to not lose the habit. The power reset cult sucks and should just find another new game if they like early metas that much.

Standard does need to cover less sets though, we have PiP, Whizbang, ED, and Lost City, that’s not including Core, Event, and the mini-sets

this would make me terribly mad so please don’t do this blizzard (the wild not being able to use standard cards part lol)

Well; like I said: That’s just me, I guess:)

You can dust recently nerfed cards for full dust value.

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With the exception of the Paladin Quest and Warrior quest. The other quest ALL have a lower win rate than just playing a Whizbang deck.

That is about as close of a definition to “Lower power Level” as it comes. If the point of the set was to make all these quests unplayable than why make them in the first place?

It’s not even the rewards that are the problem with the quests. It’s the fact that they also take up a card slot in the mulligan and cost something to be activated then costed again to get the reward. Giving up a card in the mulligan is too much in current Hearthstone. You just gave your opponent 2 mana to start the game basically. The game has evolved beyond the ability to play such cards and be competitive even if you have a decent reward. Murloc gets away with it because no reward to play and crazy synergy/card draw. Warrior has the time to play their by design and it gives a game winning path. The rest of them do none of that.

That would be a bit too extreme.

What’s more favorable is that old decks should not hog the tier 1 position exclusively, so new archetypes can be played. That’s the meaning of releasing a new expansion.

Besides, it is also an opportunity to dial down the power creep.

Tier 2 isn’t really the ground though. A good nerf is not equal to killing the deck.

If the new expansion has no impact or is insignificant, you won’t have to spend on the packs; but that means a stale meta and is not what most players want.

You normally don’t get full dust refunds if they just nerf one lynchpin card that supports them all. Usually that only happens when the complaints roll in.

It never happen i think, bc standard and new expac / new set is what bring them most revenue.
You could see their evaluate older patch in decreasing value (such as arena reward or event reward).

Have you noticed how they’re doing everything they can to avoid nerfing anything above rare? All the trouble decks are getting hit in the commons. Heaven forbid we get dust refunds!

Bad enough we get at most 1/4 of our dust back if not less

The end result is that besides nerfing the old archetypes, they’re also slightly buffing the new ones (except LoH/wilted, they’re killing them, and murlocs are slightly hit).

The bright side is that you probably won’t need to spend much resources on the new expansion, so cheer up guys!