I have played other games that heavily use alternate currency for in game purchase but the difference is that that currency could be gained in game although at a slow rate and you got in game bonuses for make the real money purchase of that currency. You don’t mind that extra change from currency purchase not being exact and lining up with real money costs because you could bank it and use the free currency gain at the slow rate to save up for the next purchase. But of course, from how it sounds Blizzard goes with the most scummy way to use this new currency from the description we are given.
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As 70/30 (BGs/Standard) player, my question is what is the price. If it is under 5 USD per rotation, I might consider it. I expect it to be 20 USD and if it is a case, I am out and I am not even F2P, because I am not interested in predatory system of Blizzard.
The game mode is quite simply F2P made. There are very few updates, very few changes, very few options to change the game.
I will compare it to DotA. You can play it entirely for free, but the team needs to update it regularly, there are huge changes, shifts to the maps, everything. Everything for free.
This is a game with no UI/UX changes, heroes just change the screen, no interaxtions, no big updates, simply no reason for me to invest.
As F2P it is OK game. As something paid I just go away. Simple as that.
Just going all-in on it, aren’t they? After Immortal’s success, why not?
My guess would be 10$ as bg is still not the main game but it could be 20$ as well
I am in dubio. Its worth 10$ or even 20$ for me but only if the game remains popular. If i end up playing the same players all the time because many people quit then the game is less attractive to me and maybe i will stop then as well.
Some people think BG will die. It wont be that fast as you can still buy with gold for the upcoming season i believe. But i would guess halve the regular players will not pay,maybe even more. Maybe they will keep playing f2p but the moment you are f2p you will start to play less usually.
One more thing to mention - if I dont get XP (=gold/packs) from BGs, I will give up on standard as well soon. BGs feeded my standard packs (even though lower pace) so I had some base packs.
If I dont get XP/packs from BGs, I will not have enough free packs next season=more dust spent=leave HS altogether.
This is another nail in the coffin of Blizzard and honestly I dont understand it.
Considering the products that Blizzard is offering, I hope the whole comporation dies soon and somebody else picks up the pieces.
Depends on the price, but from my perspective, 50-60USD is from my perspective AAA game. Paying 30USD per year for an “arcade” is pure joke (considering 10USD).
I am looking forward to this, as this should be quite scary example of missmanagement for other corporations. My say conservative expectation is that 70% (maybe 80%) will not pay (if it is 20USD) and half of the players will be gone in matter of weeks/months and the game dies out as fast as mercs did.
Considering it was the strongest mode so far, this will be fun, because even this mode was feeding the standard playerbase with players like me (limited gold from BGs, who played standard too).
Instead, the game mode will die out very quickly (=become arena, duels, mercs), which means less players overall which means less players in HS which means less people watching the game, which means less whales (moving to games more interesting for people) which means dead game.
You are sort of paying only for the 4 heroe choice.
What else is there on the reward track. Skins and emotes and that is it i think?
Gold has become useless for bg only players so i dont know what else the reward track can give.
All signs point to yes.
I have been learning a game on steam (also free) called Storybook Brawl that plays very much like BGs and was even created by a former HS dev.
That is the plan, to separate the economies.
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from the wording it really indicates that the plan is to replace all ingame currency with the new one, at least over time. ofc they could just have an idiot write it up, but i´d say it´s very purposeful that they do not mention anywhere that standard will remain gold only, quite the opposite.
thats not what the wording says…
Ah, okay. Yeah I thought there was something new in the patch that did differential damage based on a cosmetic feature, or something like that.
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i mean that´s were the scheme begins, as runestones and money are the same thing. Runestones are just used to disguise this fact. Which is the very appalling thing about the move.
It absolutely in no way whatsoever should affect gameplay. That isn’t a negative.
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The track does effect gameplay. You need to buy the track to unlock 2 extra hero choices.
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While I agree with this, I should have maybe been more clear.
I put literally no value on cosmetics and would never pay a dime of RL or ingame currencies to get one.
The entire BG reward track is utterly superflous imo. Giving me pictures of heroes I already use isn’t, imo, anything of value or a reward of any kind.
The fact that the track does not reward anything that helps me improve my account in any tangible way (more hero choices/card packs/dust/ANYTHING) means the only change is that they want me to pay up to have two more choices.
They can keep the track and their runestones.
It’s literally enough to make me stop playing the mode.
No, nothing on the track does anything usefull. The standard track has packs, gold, and cards - all important to maintaining your edge in the game. The BG track has no purpose other than new pictures, except we have all the heroes already. No. Point.
Buying two more hero choices gives you the track.
I have defended the mode as NOT P2W in the past specificaly because I could get the extra choices from the xp I earned playing the mode through in game gold. I cannot make the same defense when Runestones are cash only.
HS is offically P2W now.
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Sounds pretty obvious to me that this is some way to circumvent the laws in china. I see no other reason.
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It’s a psychological ploy, really. The idea is that you don’t see the value of Runestones in the same way or as a clearly defined amount. Kind of like how 19.99 has always been used because 20.00 seems way bigger.
It also skirts potential lootbox laws in a legalese “terrible human being” sort of way, in that you’re spending real money on RUnESToNeS instead of a lootbox. And then about the only use for Runestones is buying lootboxes. So it’s not the same thing and wiggles around direct legislation that’s probably coming to the EU at some point.
Let’s all take a moment to pray that when Microsoft takes over this company they’ll turn around, revert a lot of this stuff, and include BG Perks as part of Game Pass. It’s a more realistic hope than Activision Blizzard making a consumer-friendly product at this point.
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It shouldn’t, though. That’s what I’m saying.
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I mean if buying the regular tavern pass for constructed also gave a battlegrounds pass, I could maybe see myself doing it… maybe, but having 2 passes in the same game that you have to buy is going full greedtard.
as for currency we alreayd have gold and dust, why not just sell gold or dust ? keep it simple ?edit:nevermind I see what they are doing a pay for currency you can actually use to buy stuff and a f2p one that can’t be used for hardly anything XD
I see what they are doing. Turn this game into something like Diablo Immortal and get that stolen Credit Card money like people do in Diablo Immortal. I have seen this pattern before and before I heard about people using stolen credit cards for this it never hit me that is actually how people are getting that crazy whale money of $1000s a week in games using this model. They aren’t hacking, they aren’t using their own money they use stolen money.
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