Come on, doing 47 dmg in turn 6 is just too much no matter how lucky you need to be ( and turns out with shaman you don’t have to be that lucky anyway )
When are we going to see some nerfs in this broken spell shaman build
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What turn is ok to be able to OTK? Prior to the expansion it wasn’t uncommon to have the OTK by around turn 9 (queen azshara was the OTK bottleneck previously). The new cards pushed that up to around turn 7 in my experience.
Where does the current shaman deck sit on the historical timeline of OTK decks in terms of when it ends the game?
I mean OTK is already frustrating because there are few ways you can counter it (build loads of armor or use rat and pray to draw the OTK minion (liks Sif for mage))
But with shaman it generates the token creatures by spell and does 14*3 dmg minimum to your face. even if you are at full health with Rena (35hp) and you got your 2x Gain 4 armor and lets say you didn’t get hit in the face ONCE (which is impossible since shaman also has weapons) you are sitting at 1hp in turn 6 from 35hp. that’s just gross and broken.
The idea of OTK in a card game is already hard to deal with but at least do it at your max power, like 10 mana, not turn 6.
they need to do a remake of this game and throw this one in the trash 
, it’s beyond fixing.
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Have you actually played the deck yourself? Hard deck to play and its not that easy to do the combo that early.
Plus you have to fight for the safe board. Early pressure is the key.
Blizzard cant remake things. The remakes just dies so fast now. Just check the review bombs ow2 got yesterday on steam.
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What makes an OTK deck acceptable is that both players know the steps that one needs to take to achieve the OTK and therefore it can be “countered”.
BUT, Spell Shaman is a Casino deck where its possible in one game you OTK in Turn 5 but next game you can only OTK in Turn 10.
The deck is an abomination and so are the people defending it. They will claim that the deck isn’t as good/popular in Top Legend because of its inconsistency (proof being that they prefer Sif Mage in Top Legend, a “slower” but far more consistent OTK deck which can “easily” be countered), thinking that’s a good reason for it to not get nerfed.
An OTK deck should never have to rely on the Discover mechanic for its OTK, and after the optimizations in the deck Dirty Rat can’t even counter it.
So if you are playing a Control deck all you can do is sit on your as# and wait to lose, because you have no way of stopping it.
There are some very obvious nerfs that need to be implemented.
Lightning Reflexes 1 → 2 Mana
Crash Of Thunder 5 → 7 Mana
Only way for a deck as annoying as this one, to stay in the game is for it to get nerfed to the ground.
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No, a casino deck is one that relies on randomly generated cards as its win-con.
The deck is an abomination, I agree, but its not a casino deck.
Have you not seen Lightning Reflexes?
A card that it solely relies to for the OTK is basically random.
Yes, I have. Its not a casino deck as it doesnt rely on on the casino to win.
Nature Shaman can win without even using LR. And does. Often.
Not a casino deck!
No it doesn’t?
How does it discount Crash of Thunder then?
Because its a nature spell?
A single card doesnt make a deck casino deck. 2/32 cards randomly generated.
Its obnoxious, sure, but its NOT a casino deck.
The card IS the deck.
The way that Shaman OTK’s in 50 Health is by Discovering Lighning Bolts, Crash of Thunders by Lightning Reflexes.
Lightning Reflexes is the card that makes Shaman able to deal 50 Damage in one turn.
Without it he only has access to 2x Lightning Bolt, 2x Crash of Thunder … and that implying that he was lucky enough to have both in hand.
Lightning Reflexes IS Spell Shaman, and also the enabler for a Turn 6 OTK.
Nah, its not
Whatever you say
It’S nOt
At least we agree
a casino deck.
You cant change the terminology to suit your agenda.
You come here claiming that i’m the one misusing phrases, yet look at you.
Talking about “suit your agenda” while talking about a Hearthstone deck.
You are a joke.
By all means, show me how I am misusing the term of casino deck.
A single RNG card does not make a deck casino by default. If it did then every deck all the way back to 2014 would be a casino deck.
Yes, I am. whats your point?
I am “joke” that knows the definitions of the terms I use.
You, however, are just a joke.
This game is so stupied right now - otk shamans and mages all around. Obviously this is done so people try to build this decks, then they will “FIX”, what was done intentionaly and make a roll for the new OP decks- the weel to make money. Gladly the player base is very small for this game nowdays.
also rotate Bioluminecent out or bring it to 5 mana with text “This spell cannot be reduced in manacost” + 7 spelldamage for 3 mana is already disgusting but being able to easyly reduce it is just stupid