My opinion on hunters, since forever. Whats yours?

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So first of all i am not trying to offend hunter players. Alot will probably feel that way so i ironically apologize in advance that your feelings are hurt over an opinion online.

So…

I know fully well that hunters were made to provide a very easy class to play for newer players or those who didn’t bother strategizing in a strategy card game too much, and i respect that.

I’ve been playing since a few days after HS’ launch and my first opinion on hunter was very quickly that it felt…well, dumb. To play against but also to play. (OPINION).
I can say i ‘sampled’ hunter back in LK when ‘only spell hunter’ was a 2-3 tier deck but not too boring to play. Rexxar hero kept it fun. For the first 100 games atleast. Because alot of the spells i generated were randomized and no minions in my deck made me have to think about where to throw my damage, i somewhat enjoyed this deck.

If i look at what the new quest has made spell hunter too be, i cringe so much. The only hunter deck i would ever care to play because it felt a bit less buffoony just got 1 card that made it into a facerace archetype again.

Needless to say, just like probably most on here, there’s not any hunter deck viable that does ‘cool stuff’. Reno hunter had my interest for a bit but the double Krush combo was really a bit much. And even that deck had enough pressure to make you wonder why Reno would even be in there in the first place. It was more than likely just the Zephyr doing the work on you for lethal by turn 7-8. I bet the percentage of times they had to pop their Reno at all was extremely low. And i doubt what good a HP reset does for hunter when it’s lost board. You’d be overrun anyway so i think it’d just be a great tool on curve in a facerace you’re losing and nothing else.

And i barely even see them anymore.
All i really see from hunter is ‘how much dmg can i go face for the least amount of mana this turn?’ and it’s been like that since well…forever i guess. I get it’s meant to be a quickfire class but they have almost 0 room to even TRY and make some fun combo’s or some big beast deck to be viable…It’s either 21 secrets in a deck, a board full of little tokens every turn or just ‘drag spell face. many spell face, many good’.

So the mental image i get projected about hunters players is like a literal Ogre sitting somewhere in Draenor who decided to pick up video games but doesn’t know what the actual f he’s doing at all. So all the mental thought process is just ‘ooh green card means can play. Play where best place? Face must be best place’.

Kind of like you challenging a guy to a dance battle and he picks up a bat to break your legs and tells you thats what he thought breakdancing meant.

I know i’m throwing quite some shade right now but i’ve learned to adapt to the class and all decks i ever adopt from now on counter them quite hard. Still, it’s the only class in HS i have a very strong opinion on (i have a weaker one about druids since Denath came out but who doesnt)

However since my last 20 something matches had over 10 hunters who all showed the typical hunter decks but also behaviour (coin hero power on turn 1 and then BM ‘well played’ or some stuff like that) it might have helped my WR but not my opinion of them.

So been wondering this for a while but what’s your opinion on hunters as a class? Keep it respectful, i expressed my PERSONAL opinion multiple times. Psychology teaches me barking my opinion down implies recognition of guilt.

I’d rather have you tell me why you are pro or anti hunter and what changes you would love to see in the class.

This is a feedback forum after all.

Final Edit: I’ve seen some Wild versions of hunter in meme ranks where they OTK you with thaurissan into cube with that hero power doubling minion. Most of you might find that more degenerate than most hunter decks that are viable right now, however i’d MUCH rather have that kind of hunter decks over the card vomiting abominations i encounter these days. Most are left with an empty hand by turn 6 and just pray to Cthulu that it’s enough. Those really grind my gears regardless if i win or lose. It’s a card strategy game. Not a card yeeting game.

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I also tend to stereotype the people who are behind the decks im facing haha.

Priest : Psychopaths. When they are not busy playing hearthstone they are busy trolling people on the internet. Leaving nasty comments on blogs, videos, facebookpages etc. These are the people who get enjoyment from seeing people angry.

Druids: A type of people who are pretty full of themselves. The kind of people who would install cheatmode on a game, destroy anyone and everyone and then brag about how good they are. If they could cheat in this game they would. Their biggest enjoyment in life is when they can really crush people down in their boots, which you get plenty of in druid after turn 7. I could easily see them playing basketball against a 10 year old kid, destroy him because of age and size difference and then feel real good about it. Emoting every turn when you have 20 mana , 3 giant taunt minions on board, enough spells and rush to kill off a small country is what makes life worth living.

Aggro players in general: Surely aggro is played by a certain kind of people where patience and intelligence was sold out the day they where borned. Problably they where bullies at school, live in a trailerpark and rage alot while playing.

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While i do agree most priest players probably are just taking a break from tormenting the poor child they have locked in the basement, i can’t say i agree with the rest.

I have a pretty even spread of wins across most classes( less on demon hunter, but it has been here less so i think that is okay.)

I really don’t get why there is an opinion that aggro is brainless. The goal of the game is to make the number under your opponents face a zero.

When aggro is too overpowered or gets a top draw it is indeed brainless, but the same can be said for any deck, the only real difference is how long the match is.

For aggro you have to take into account every single number to get where you need to get before it is too late. It takes just as much thinking to decide what to hold and what to play and when to trade as a slower deck takes to decide when to clear and when to draw. I would argue that combo may take the least amount of thought. It is just draw cards and survive until all the cards you need are in hand and you have enough mana to play them. Most combo decks become very boring to me after a few short games.

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My opinion on Hunters is that my Green Goblin Hunter deck is still fun after all this time. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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Weird. According to these forums, it’s nothing but Big Priest. Haven’t seen one all day.

My last 10 opponents
Mage
Rogue
Warlock
Priest
Priest
Mage
Hunter
Priest
Priest
Priest

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I rarely played Priest. To paraphrase a great doctor, your model is bad and you should feel bad.

Hmph. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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Just wondering what rank you are playing ( or more accurately what was your star bonus at the start of this season )that you are encountering opponents who are coin hero powering?

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It’s the handy excuse when your grand plan of total control (“just you wait until I get some more Mana, Jaina”) is failing against a swift and efficient opponent.

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‘My opinion of x is “something fairly derogatory and not very well informed, borderline prejudiced”. Please be respectful in your replies though’.

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Ah i knew it wouldn’t be long before the first forum hero wanted his two piece combo.

  1. What you say about a class doesn’t have to be about the player itself. I gave a constructed opinion about the class, my reasons for it and asked to be respectful towards my opinion. As a forum poster, i should be able to say ‘i want every x player to get y complications in game’ and it should be a valid opinion. If i turn around and say x players need y complications in real life thanks to their actions online, that’s a personal attack and not a very constructed opinion.

  2. Please do explain to me how i am not very well informed and prejudiced. No wait, let me rephrase: What do you think hunters are very good at? Oh we somehow arrive on the same conclusion because there is very little room for discussing how hunters play? That’s odd don’t you think? And it’s simply an undisputed fact that hunter synergy sets up for burst kills through early and constant pressure in combo with face dmg, hero power or cardwise.

Oh and as last you could’ve actually used my attention for actual feedback and show me what exactly is prejudiced, how you believe it to be, etc. Instead you don’t even argue my opinion but choose to criticize the fact that i’m asking to keep it kind of civilized. Quite logical isn’t it, we’re discussing the hunter class here. Putting ‘hunter’ in your post title is already poking a wasp nest with a stick after the recent nerfs they got.

All in all a very low effort attempt at forum trolling/deeming an OP’s opinion invalid. I hope you put more effort into the other 3k forum posts you already tried to put down. Yes, your history is out there to see…Anyone can see you’re a Nancy Sour Grape on forums for years on end.

But yeah you could’ve handled that way better :slight_smile: goodbye

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Every archetype and class in the game has decisions to make and that includes aggro and/or Hunter. If you just throw every card on the board and send every attack to face without considering the opponent’s board or possible clears, you won’t win a lot of games. The same goes for playing a control deck and throwing out clears every time you’re faced with more than 2 minions. You’ll run out of removal before they run out of minions, even more so with combo decks, which function similarly but are more limited in their removal options due to having to dedicate deck slots to their combo pieces.

Whichever deck is the aggressor in a given situation and matchup needs to consider what trades and sweepers are available to the opponent on each subsequent turn and play around those as best they can. The passive deck meanwhile needs to consider when to hold cards and absorb the damage and when to pull the trigger on their removal. Both players need to correctly manage their resources and suggesting that aggressive decks are brain dead is simply a lack of understanding of how they function.

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It’s not about the class, it’s about the playstyle.

Beast hunter is harder to play than aggro druid, for example.
Not every hunter archetype is immediately “go face and win”, even if that’s the most common one.

Big beast is my favorite archetype: it has a lot of support in wild, even if it’s not a succesful ladder deck.
“medium” beasts was popular in standard recently and it was also succesful

Every time I get to turn 6-7 and my opponent concedes just because they don’t have cards in hand and I have more than 10 health with board advantage, I wonder how they can have fun

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This is why hardly anyone is playing Naga/Boon Priest or Enrage Warrior. They’re soooo powerful but they feel absolutely miserable when they miss. Also the reason players prefer the Curse variant of Imp Warlock to the straight board-based build. They have almost identical win rates but adding in the Curses makes the deck less polarising, which makes it feel more robust even though the overall win rate is about the same.

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Oh good god I’m not reading all that.

You were clearly itching for a fight, and I don’t care enough to engage further. Good luck with it

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if this bit doesnt tell you hes a troll nothing will

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Yup. Wasn’t at all trying to bait people right?

‘It’s the playstyle I have an issue with, not the people’.

Sure…

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They don’t have much utility or disruption like a lot of other classes or sometimes they feel like they don’t have slots to run the limited disruption they do have or that it’s not proactive enough for their plan. Also hunters get a disproportionate amount of big minions that have fairly bland abilities. So despite almost always having a t1/2 deck not many people decide to main it. Though with zombie amalgymations and junk there have been some reasons to play it but also the synergies are so far apart that key pieces of one deck do not necessarily lend themselves to other decks so much so its overall a very awkward class.

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Well said. Excellent points made.

If i am playing a slower deck and get matched up against a ramp druid, going wide is always the answer (at least until spreading plague showed back up). Adapting an changing depending on your opponent is always the right choice.

So all decks can and will need to be played differently and with thought or else you really don’t have much have a chance of climbing successfully.

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Hmm okay so first you don’t care to engage further cause you’re too lazy to read about 2min of criticism about your completely non-constructive response, seemingly i triggered that flight response but you switched on a dime cause another infamous forum troll is giving you some stimulation here.

Sure if i’m baiting and trolling i wouldn’t be expressing myself to not be against the pilot but the aircraft, so to speak, MULTIPLE TIMES in my post.
Sure i brought up stereotypes you CLEARLY took offense too, yet that’s an opinion i am allowed to have. I have made the same comments about warlock earlier which is probably my 3rd most played class. Behind every class belongs a stereotype and that’s more comedic than anything really. Sorry you got offended i brought up your favorite class by chance.

But every dam time ANYONE has an opinion on a forum and it doesn’t fit your liking, there’s always the same miserable elk like you, Scrootie, Boreas with your thousands of forum posts. And then most of you, like Scroot and Boreas, are smart enough to atleast keep their activity hidden so it’s harder to expose the real trolls. Then there’s you, taking 2min into your activity shows that you are the exact same what Boreas, Scroot and some others here trying to hide by disabling public profiles: That you get your enjoyment from being the actual forum trolls on trivial subjects, stating every opinion thats not yours is wrong and them correcting you for it or just confronting you for it makes them the troll.

Yeah you guys are a c*ncer that’s present on every post. And you threw me a curveball and i just didn’t take it. But you guys don’t realize that you’re actually preventing proper balancing to happen or just for people to express their opinion or vent as long as you keep within code of conduct, what this place is meant to do.

Oh wait thats probably too many words for you again. Cause you read 2 sentences of my last comment and already knew you didn’t have a foot to stand on. Can’t wait till you guys are too old for this stuff, but you’ll probably keep doing this on some forums till you’re old and grey. If you aren’t already, ofcourse.

Have a nice life :slight_smile:

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I do wonder what percent of people playing the game regularly “main” a class in such a way that it would reflect on their character at all. It’s especially hard to determine with Hunter, since they tend to almost always have good decks for ladder.

I’ll play hunter pretty grudgingly (only decks I’ve ever liked where highlander quest [the summon minion quest) and mech hunter). but even I had to play it regularly a few times in the last year when it was just straight broken.

Mage is probably the class with most loyalty in that regard. And they seem pretty play-style agnostic.

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