Im quite sure this isn’t supposed to happen. He got it from Dreamplanner Zephrys after choosing “Extravagant Tour” (Get 2 random cards that can potentially spend a lot of mana). Firstly, it doesn’t say from “the past” and lastly, 3 mana is not a lot of mana. What happened there? Disgusting.
Not a bug, that’s part of the card pool
“potentially spend a lot of mana” is the option for control cards. ice block by itself doesn’t spend a lot (remember the potentially) but allows to play a lot of mana from other cards in a safer way
To be honest, I don’t care about the mana cost of Ice Block but Ice Block in Standard. Ice Block was removed from Standard long ago. Tha’ts the issue.
The amount of cheating happening recently is getting a bit insane. Blizzard doing nothing about it sends a strong message that it’s OK to cheat on their platform. They make their money from these cheaters more than they do us so somehow that justifies it.
There are a bunch of ways to generate wild cards in standard, not just ice block
Usually, when you’re about to get cards from Wild format, the game says something like “a card from the past” or uses another phrase that indicates it’s not Standard-only. Actually, I wanted to ask—how do you get Wild cards in the current meta? I honestly can’t recall any case.
Also, the mana cost of Ice Block is an issue. I’ve never picked it “Extravagant Tour” (or seen anyone pick it) because usually, you can’t afford to spend “a lot of mana” on random cards. People tend to go for direct damage or board control instead. Now, if “a lot of mana” means 3 mana, then maybe you would consider it. But the phrasing seems off, and because of that, people don’t really see it as a viable option, you know? My opponent selected Extravagant tour because the Aviana effect was on, and the cards would cost 1 mana only.
Maybe it’s just me, but getting Ice Block from Dreamplanner Zephrys definitely felt like a bug.
From the past is one wording but it’s not the only one. It’s used when it gives card from the entire wild pool even if restricted to a limited type.
Zephrys does not generate from the wild pool, he generates from a specific dedicated and established pool
Using the from the past wording you have Whack-A-Gnoll, Hemet, Maestra, Wave of Nostalgia, Final Frontier
Not using the from the past you have Zephrys, Whizbang, Champions of Azeroth
In previous metas, some of the hero’s gift cards were generating wild cards
Note that the extravagent tour doesn’t state that the card cost a lot of mana, but that they can potentially spend a lot of mana
Blood lust doesnt deal damage, yet it’s a card that can potentially deal damage through your minions
Shadowstep costs 0 but it can allow to spend a lot of mana by returning to your hand an expansive minion
Shadoflame by itself doesn’t affect the ennemy board, it requires an additional minion
In that logic, Ice block can allow to spend mana on a card you would not be able to play if it exposes yourself to a lethal
The devs deliberately put that card in here
Hear that folks? Someone hacked into the game, while actively playing, just to add 1 card to their hand.
Now stop and think about that, how silly it sounds and why anyone would take the time
Do you know where we can see this dedicated card pool that Zephrys pulls from?
You’re right—most of those cards give you things from the past, but still, no Ice Block. If Zephrys can offer Wild cards, that should be clearly stated. As for Champions of Azeroth, I think it’s still implied that it’s from the past, since there are no “Champions” in the current Standard meta.
I get what you’re saying, but honestly—it still doesn’t make much sense. If you’re choosing a direct damage option, you expect direct damage. Same goes for board clears. That’s how it’s been working so far. When you read “potentially spend a lot of mana,” you wouldn’t expect a 0-mana card, especially since you could spend that mana on something else. It just feels off.
Maybe they did—but it still felt like a bug to me. Might be just because it was the first time I saw it, but it really caught me off guard.
yes but ice block was removed from generation, the only way to get ice block in standard is to run a cheat engine, as well as the rogue weapon that doesn’t lose durability and makes the hero take half damage, but I see these cards and Blizz does NOTHING to stop the cheating.
LOL, I never said it was hacked. But hey, if you can actually explain what happened, be my guest, Raiden. Maybe it’s your first time playing this game, but I’ve seen plenty of bugs over the years. Just check the recent patch notes—they’ve been fixing tons of them. And why would someone take the time to share their experiences with the community, right? =)
its a cheat engine, I watched several streams with people running it blatantly to get SEVERAL banned cards into standard.
It is not a cheat or a bug. Card pools are shown in
https://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/dreamplanner-zephrys-travel-tour-card-pools-what-potentially-perfect-cards-you-can-get/
Ice block is also listed as related card in official card library.
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/110796-dreamplanner-zephrys?set=standard&textFilter=zephrys
This is the official list but the cards are not sorted by tour, and it seems like there’s too much for them to be listed
https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Dreamplanner_Zephrys#Generated_cards
The wiki should be up to date
Why though ? What’s the matter since the cards from Zephrys are from a dedicated pool ? What’s the difference between a restricted non-evolutive card pool from wild, and a specific set of cards created explicitely for that one ?
No wildseed card lists their wildseeds, Marin doesn’t list his treasures.
All of Zephrys’s cards could be reskinned cards created specificaly for him, with another secret that make you immune on lethal damage, it would be the same result, since zephrys does not get his cards form wild but from his dedicated card pool.
Well you visibly don’t get what I’m saying since that’s what you’re argumenting
Bloodlust and windfury are not direct damage
Shadowflame and equality are not direct board clears
If I shadowstep a 10-cost minion, that 0-mana spell allows me to spend 8 mana…
Possibly means that maybe the card will allow to do what’s indicated, with no guarantee
almost everything you said is false
ice block has been removed from random pool generations, not from dedicated pool generation
Proof being thta it is OFFICIALLY part of Zephry’s card pool
There has not been an instance of cheats allowing to run illegal cards in standard
The only documented evidence of something similar I can recall was in twist. Other than that, if it has ever been possible in standard, it didn’t happen in years.
The weapon you’re talking about is a paladin one, it comes from a hero card
Proof or lie
That weapon, as mentioned, is a pally hero weapon called The Immovable object, and can be destroyed by rustrot viper, acidic slime, etc, so I don’t see how it’s any more of an issue as an until END OF TURN immune when you’re at 1 health.
You people just mad you got outplayed
Well, you’re right (On this one =)