Murozond is playing the card, not you. BC’s only activate if YOU play the card. Its always been this way. Its in the tooltip:
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This should be tested with other Battlecry cards that have statements separated by a period to see if those statements occur as well.
For example:
Frost Lich Jaina.
Murozond should NOT summon a 3/6 elemental but it SHOULD make all your elementals have lifesteal for the rest of the game if it’s to be consistent, correct?
Otherwise, Shudderwock is bugged with Galakrond and should not be equipping a weapon.
I get your point, I just think the interaction is flawed at best and bugged at worse.
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I will get back to you. I gotta see if I have as many crossed wires as Blizzards spaghetti coding does, which is absolutely a possibility.
No, YOU are not playing cards, Murozond is, and he IS NOT doing it from hand either. You and hand are very important words.
Let me know what you find out. Interested in hearing.
Another thing about this card is that it’s an entirely new mechanic that is using an existing mechanic’s text to decipher what it does.
The card doesn’t say summon because the card also repeats spells, hero cards, and other non spell activations. The card also doesn’t activate Battlecry effects because it wasn’t designed to. The battlecry is not supposed to trigger because it’s not activated as a consequence from playing the hand but rather it’s from the result of mirroring the cards played before.
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Tess reads the same and you don’t get battlecries. The claw is a bug.
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Are YOU your OPPONENT?
No, you are you. Not your opponent, not Murozond, YOU!!!
YOU must play the card, from YOUR hand, to have its BC effect activate.
And you only PLAYED Murozond, him/his BC, played every other card.
Again, read the tool ti[p. Did you play any card other than Muro? No, you didnt. The word you is literal. its consistent. Its working as it should for your particular complaint.
Yes, there is likely a bugged interaction in the works somewhere, but not the one you believe.
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But it says “play” in imperative, i.e. the players plays the card. It probably is coded the way you describe it, but from the wording it should be the player playing the cards and it is very counterintuitive that Battlecries are not repeated (same with Tess).
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No, however I will happily admit I am very likely wrong as I misremembered the comments made on the 2 cards I was using as a comparison points. Something is definitely fishy with the whole deal.
I am not gonna argue the unintuitive side of things, I agree, but it is consistent with other similar effects which, at the end of the day, is the most important thing.
E: and when you compare what happens to the battlecry tooltip, it does make sense that it works how it does in a convoluted way.
I will be testing this later today and will make a post on my findings. I’ll let you know!
…replay means…play again. Same verb same mechanic. He doesn’t give battlecries and shouldn’t. IF you get a claw it’s a bug.
Please do. Like I said, happy to admit I am wrong as I likely am. What I think has happened is they were to preoccupied with BG’s and coded it as both a part of the BC, and the transformation effect, without double checking their work… 'COS BGS ROCK (apparently)
For Tess, that makes sense… Murozond says “play” though, maybe they should change that to make it a bit clearer.
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For clarification, I do believe you are right. I should be able to prove that later.
How are play and replay any different? The only difference is YOU never played the cards with Murozond hence you wouldn’t be replaying hence it’s not replay.
To prevent confusion? Why isnt Tess play? To prevent confusion would be my guess based on what the word play means in HS. Simple, easy fix. Replay and play can have different definitions in this game, would make everything much clearer.
So, after testing with Jaina, I can safely state that Galakrond and Jaina cards are an entire battlecry. The period doesn’t separate the second statement from the battlecry.
I played Jaina and then Murozond and Murozond did not give my elementals lifesteal.
The previous OP stating that he got a weapon from Murozond was either ill informed, or they just patched it. I just tried that and Murozond does not give a weapon.
The question is, are there are any more battlecries that have periods that separate it from another effect.
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My original (innocently false) claim was based on Kingsbane and Prelate comments. I completely screwed up in my memory of the comments made, and dont deny that fact for a second. I got everything completely upside-down and inside out in my recollection of the statements made regarding the interaction differences for “keeps all buffs”.
Thanks for putting in the legwork to test it.