So , for science.
My ranked opponent played his Rank 3 / Tier 3 / Whatever its called Galakrond, (ill let you take a moment to guess which class… shaman)
his effects go off, equip his 5/2 claw…get 4 8/8 rushers, he kills a bunch of my stuff and they end their turn.
For my turn I play Murozond, you know, the one thats says Battlecry: “play all cards your opponent played last turn”
For 8 mana, I turned into Galakrond (Rank 3/ Tier 3 whatever its called), got a 5/2 claw equipped and NOTHING else. Not one 8/8 rush elemental spawned.
If by definition of playing ALL my opponents cards, why did I only get 2/3s of the effect of Galak rank 3 / tier 3 / whatever ?
I proceeded to lose that match. RIP
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Because they only played a galakrond, the 8/8’s and the weapon are only apart of galakronds battlecry, and murozond doesn’t repeat battlecries.
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Yet the equip is part of the battlecry.
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It is, and as I said murozond doesn’t repeat battlecries, just cards that are played. Galakrond was the only card played.
The odd part is that he is getting the WEAPON o.O
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exactly! if anything I should have just turned into Galakrond and got nothing else.
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Ohhhh, I didn’t even read that part, my bad.
Yeah, I’ll check the card text real quick, but I’m certain you should either get the full battlecry or none of it. That’s weird.
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You know, this may be one of the few times where I’m actually going to call bug.
Galakrond has some strange properties. For one, he’s not discoverable by normal effects that discover or generate totally random cards (you might still get him from Lazul which targets hand directly though). Also, I know Invoke effects do not go off if a Galakrond is not somewhere in your deck, hand, or equipped, and does not have retroactive invoke tiering up like C’Thun did if by some circumstance you acquire him later after you’ve already invoked.
Yet I’m pretty sure that if Gala is taken or copied from hand, he’s going to be of the tier the original was at. Murazond not doing this feels like an anomaly. I’d have to test to see if Madam Lazul can steal a tiered up Gala to be certain whether the game looks at Gala’s tier when it is taken.
Semi-telated, if you stole or copied an enemy’s C’thun from their hand, did it retain buffs or not?
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If you stole it , it would be buffed personally.
But if I think I know where you are going with this, my personal Galak (was playing priest, I dont remember if he was t3 or not)
If I was given my own personal Galak effects due to the wibbly wobbly Blizzardy coding , his one remaining 8/8 that was still alive would have been destroyed due to Priest’s Galak…
But as I said , turned into Shaman Galak, got a claw and nothing else.
While illogical, working as intended,
There is a period (.) after the battlecry effect. Equipping the weapon is NOT a part of the BC, it is its OWN effect.
E: it would say “and equip a 5/2 weapon” if it was a part of the BC.
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Nope, I refuse to see logic.
It says play all cards. You cannot convince me otherwise ^.^
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maybe getting the 8/8,s require to be invoked and you probably did never invoke yourself? (the weapon you always get)
It could have to do something with that but I don’t know. It is kinda weird.
Bowsers explanation makes sense,the weapon is not a battlecry effect.
You are welcome to refuse to see it. I have just explained why it works the way it does.
Yes, its illogical, not gonna even argue that fact. But, given the text on the card, is working as it should.
If I remember correctly, it didn’t, as the C’thun buffs were treated like an “aura” belonging to the player, ie if you stole C’thun you’d get him as a 6/6, BUT if you were playing a C’thun deck also, the stolen C’thun got the stats according to the amount of buffs you had played.
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That WAS true, but no longer is I believe. Now buffs are retained when"stealing" cards from your opponents deck or hand.
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Except the weapon is part of the BC. Shudderwock absolutely re-equips it.
Also correct me if I’m wrong, but, shouldn’t Murozond’s BC work like that of Tess?
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No, its mot a part of the BC. See my above explanation.
You dont have to agree with it, but as written, its working as it should.
If it wasn’t a part of the bc, Shudder wouldn’t reequip. But he 100% does.
Atm we have 2 cards:
One ONLY repeats battlecries, and equips it.
One DOESN’T activate battlecries, and (according to op) equips it.
So, as it stands now, it both is and isn’t a bc.
So, a bug.
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I concede, you are correct. But it is my opinion that it’s Shudderwock thats bugged here, based on the text of the cards in question.
Yes, a bug, just not the one you think.
Ah no, Im not taking a position if it should or shouldn’t be a bc, or which card should be changed.
Just pointing out that, as it is right now, the weapon behaves both as a bc and not a bc.