It doesn’t feel like a strategy game, where you can refine your skills and get better as you play. Once you get past the learning curve, which isn’t very steep, it’s mostly all just a slot machine playing against the same copy and pasted Meta decks – which don’t require any skill or decision making to play.
If it’s just a slot machine why do some players consistently get high ranks but others don’t with the same decks? Why do some decks do well in Bronze but are unplayable in Top 1k? Some people are just born with more consistent luck than others? That’s silly…
…clearly it’s rigged matchmaking for streamers and people who pay money.
Always some complaint on this forum. But man, dredging up the net decking complaint is like 10 years ago. All ccg, tcg, etc will have netdecks and a meta. Literally every one. And yes it’s okay to go off meta and build your own homebrew and have fun with it if you can. You probably won’t climb to legend but the victories you have with it can be worth it.
Content creator are half to blame
They make a deck people copy and paste cuz they “swear it’s the best deck”
And you lose literally all deck building aspect
And the other half is people who do copy and paste whatever meta deck comes
I don’t think that the issue for people who complain about a meta and netdecks is that it makes the game boring, it’s more due to the fact that they keep losing to the meta decks which makes it boring.
If a homebrewer was able to come up with a completely original deck that had a miraculous 100% winrate against the entire T1 and T2 meta, I don’t believe for a second they would be complaining that netdecks makes the game suck. At least until they start losing with it again.
Nothing stops a person from building their own decks. But this isn’t a singleplayer game. It’s a multiplayer game with a competitive mode. The game doesn’t owe you a win for playing something original.
And let’s be honest, this isn’t launch Hearthstone. With the way the themes and keywords are used to organize each expansion certain decks just build themselves. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out Murlocs should go in a Murloc Quest deck.
People can build and play whatever they want for fun, but the minute they start complaining they can’t win with their thrown together deck their claim to just wanting to play for fun is invalidated
So basically you are telling us that you don’t like constructed mode or CCGs in general. People will always be running meta decks in constructed modes and if all your fun is dependent on what everyone else is doing you will never have a good time in a CCG.
Net decks always have existed in this game. Before the internets was big, "net"decks were still a thing in that card game nerds (i use “nerds” endearingly, mods), still used the best decks they could get their hands on for the physical versions of card games.
Time. A high rank is a representation of time played. You’ll eventually hit “a high rank” if you play long enough. The other player with a lower rank played less games.
I had a lot of work last and this week and played only few games a day.
Climbed from 3000 to 100
High rank also is what brings out terms like tryhard, sweatlord, no-life, etc
It hasn’t been a strategy game for a long time. There are almost no games in which strategy is even a factor. Players are just passive participants. Single draws have too great of an impact.
If you draw the right cards are the right time, you win. If you don’t, you lose. That’s the entire game. You can have a general understanding of how different decks work and how to address them, but strategy means nothing if you don’t get the Rights Cards Right Time welfare check. Win or lose, I’d say 2% or less of all games were anything but luck. There’s some evidence some of this is scripted by the devs to create dramatic moments also.
This is well said.
There is very much an entitled group that thinks they should be able to put any deck they can make into the game and win matches.
When they cannot do this, they complain about “balance” and “bad design” and the like, but the core issue is poor choices and user inputs.
Explain why you think this is true? You think if you play 3000 games next season you will finish in the top 500 or better?
The fact is when you hit your skill cap you will not climb until you improve as a player, which may not ever happen and that will just be where you stay.
Time does not equal ranking. In fact, many of the top 1000 players play much fewer games than you would think they do because they reach their rank faster with their added stars.
What’s funny is, these original decks are most likely altered netdecks, so it’s still meta
The guy who plays 100 games will be a higher rank than the guy who plays 10 games. You don’t gain rank if you don’t play.
Lmao, you’re comparing a guy who already completed their legend grind in a previous month with a guy who is doing his legend grind in the current month.
I’ll let you in on a hint, the guy who did their legend grind the previous month already played more games.
I guess you are Legend 1 rank then.
Play only with friends. Problem solved.
This is How someone who does not like the fact that metagame exist Deal with it.
How many times has someone come to this forum and complained after losing to a deck they never saw before? Some card or combination of cards that turned a sure fire win into a sudden loss (so unfair!). For every person who complains they hate “The Meta” there will be someone else who hates what isn’t. Doesn’t matter how obscure, all that matters is they lost to it.
Personally, I like having a meta. Well, I like the idea of having a meta at least. Certainly can’t say I have enjoyed every meta. BUT, I do enjoy playing off meta decks and homebrews and tweaking them to fight “The Meta”. Without an established meta, anything you build would constantly play against random decks. While this certainly has its merits, I wouldn’t have much credible information in which to guide card changes or even how to improve as a player.
Coming up with strategies to counter meta decks throughout this games history has and continues to be one of my favorite parts of this game.
If winning is what matters most to someone, it just seems incredibly hypocritical to complain about “The Meta” since that’s just the other players who also care about winning. If winning isn’t what matters most to someone, then they have many tools and resources at their disposal to play against other like minded individuals.
Know what happens to a good original deck? It becomes part of the meta. Like it or not, meta will always exist