Mages need more consistent card draw. Aluneth 2.0

Tempo mage continues to struggle since the mana wyrm nerf, the deck always somehow ends up short.

One of the problems is that developers keep giving us mages random spell generation.

We need a lot of card draw to make small spell mage viable because we burn through many cards.

To generate spells, we rely on:

-evocation (generates random spell)
-cyclone (generates random spell)
-magic trick (generates random spell)
-wand thief (generates random spell)
-arcane intellect

4 out of 5 ways tempo spell mage generates cards is completely random. It is unreliable, mages don’t feel like they’re in control of their own decks anymore, everything relies on RNG.

We need an Aluneth 2.0, a reliable method to draw a lot of cards to feed our tempo decks.

Did you forget they just gave Mage a 2 mana draw spell that routinely draws through the Mage’s entire deck? Combo mage doesn’t need anymore draw cards. Especially when they already have that much random generation. They can’t have both.

The devs already made it clear that they consider card draw and random generation to be the same thing. It’s why Shaman, Paladin, and Priest don’t get that much draw. Why should Mage be an exception, being the kings of RNG and card draw.

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I said we need consistent card draw, not card draw that is random or relies on combo effects. The card you’re referring to, Cram Session, relies on a recourse/combo effect, it is also not very mana efficient.

So what? It’s still card draw. Give Mage anymore and they’ll have too much draw in addition to having the best random card generation output in the game, which would be an issue.

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Right, and unreliable, due to its reliance on having spell damage minions on the board, it is not consistent.

the best random card generation output in the game

We don’t want more random card generation, in fact mages are sick of having to rely on RNG when other classes get far more reliable decks.

That’s fair, but right now Mage is full of it. They can’t get card draw while the random generation cards are still in Standard. After stuff like Magic Trick, Mana Cyclone, and Evocation rotate sure, but right now it would be a mistake.

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Starcryier card draw . Arcane intelect card draw. Ancienct mysteries card draw . Cram sesion card draw . More than enough for standard .

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Forgot about those ones too. Mage has a lot of card draw actually.

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Secret mage is completely unusable in this meta, your examples are terrible, you clearly don’t play mage.

Ancient Mysteries is used in Combo Mage, Spell Mage, and Highlander Mage to tutor Ice Barrier and Flame Ward. Get your facts straight before you start telling people their examples are bad.

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Ancient mysteries . U pay 2 mana to get a free 3 mana secret . Also work with mozaki .

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I know you hate mages, but go troll somewhere else.

No mage deck in meta today relies on secrets.

No deck relies on Secrets, but they usually run an Ancient Mysteries package. Is your logic that narrow that you believe you can only run Ancient Mysteries in a heavy Secret deck?

That’s like saying you can only run Scavenger’s Ingenuity in a heavy Beast deck, which clearly isn’t true.

Apparently I’m a troll for pointing out faulty logic and missing game knowledge.

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Again, secret mage is not viable in today’s meta. You used a terrible example, no one is running ancient mysteries.

Go play mage before commenting, you’re making zero sense.

I did check hsreplay

but they are Look

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They’re not competitive decks as you can see by the winrates compared to other decks.

You can find anyone running any card on HSReplay, including secret mage, that doesn’t mean secret mage is viable in today’s meta, it’s not.

Competitive decks are
-highlander
-mozaki
-small spell tempo without mozaki

secret mage is not viable and decks relying on mage secrets are not part of the current meta, no matter how many times you try to argue otherwise

Small spell without mozaki yes they do not run only secrets package but they run ancient mysteries . Its just u who dont like that card .

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Mozaki decks with high winrates do not run secrets packages.

You found a deck that ran counterspell, but it’s not a meta deck.

You can find any deck with any card, and good for you for being able to link things (I am somehow not allowed to do that on this forum), that doesn’t mean they are part of the meta. HSReplay indexes every deck anyone plays.

Anyway, no offense, but I’m not going to keep going back and forth with you, and let other reply on the thread.

You made your point, let other people reply to my thread.

I think part of his issue is that they push random card generation and at the same time push tempo decks. It’s why i was mystified to see them releasing tempo priest cards after destroying all their card draw. It will never work.