Because everyone so enjoyed deck of lunacy mage the first 2 weeks of this set when it was 2 mana and half the ladder.
It was miserable. There are ten classes, they cant all be tier 1. Freeze mage probably works now, but you arent going to be tier 1 with it.
I don’t care about tier 1, but mage has two decks that are trash tier and one that is a tier 3 meme deck that only wins when you mulligan IF.
I was pretty disappointed that they gave mage nothing that affects ping mage or spell damage mage. Both are garbage tier and they got zero support.
I’m sorry, but I’m pretty sure people dont enjoy solitaire no minion mage with a perfect draw like rally miracle priest where you watch them do 10 or more things in a turn or draw the whole deck endlessly and hope you can compete with it.
Or when mage gets both incanters flows, which should have been nerfed off within the first 2 to 3 turns.
Enjoy what you can do and what is viable and play it; don’t go on here all the time saying “my class isn’t as broken as the first 2 weeks of this set.”
Mage players don’t love it either, you know.
It’s not as though We asked for those cards.
And, like I said: We have two other decks that
don’t work at all because Team 5 failed to print any support for them.
No Minion is a one trick pony. You either draw Incanters or you lose.
It isn’t OP. It’s tier three meme trash.
And, if you don’t like my posts? Don’t read them.
It is not uncommon for cards to be released long before any support from future expansions is released. I imagine they are highly paid and know what they are doing. They work one to two years in advance.
I don’t know what you want; the high time was early this set where deck of lunancy on 2 drove everyone up the wall and caused a lot of mage hate. Priest right now isnt helping.
Holly man! you are my soul mate. Basically every word you write i agree with. I even just logged and comment just because i agree so much. Remember in the beginning of ht with miracle rogue that they killed because was “non-interactive” and then they did the meta with quest mage that you only see the mage play… and now this… although i agree that they didnt ask for it. Blizzard should mantain ideas of non interactivity for all clasess, priest is unbearable when they are top tier…
DoL era wasn’t a high time: It was an unintended interaction with the New, diminished core set. It wasn’t planned, and DoL, by the team own admition, was never meant to be more than a meme. That’s why It got a brutal 2 mana nerf, something that rarely happens overall.
By what i’m seeing right now, Mage got nothing from the Miniset, and many competitors got stronger. Who cares If it’s gonna maybe, who knows, possibly synergize with something a few months from now. They could have included those cards in the Future set, If they were aiming for a Freeze Mage deck in the next expansion.
Leaving a class with 2 decks that are barely mentioned when talking about the meta and a third that’s been steadily sinking down the ranks isn’t good design.
There are ten classes.
Cool, 20 characters. So what?
If there are only 9 supposed to be viable, maybe there should be only 9 classes
There will always be a best class and best decks, but not everyone is going to be a part of that.
He is either being deliberately obtuse or he is clueless. Don’t waste your energy.
I agree with everything you said. They had two decks that they could have bolstered.
Instead they printed cards that do absolutely nothing for mage.
We are stuck to play tier three meme trash or nothing at all in Standard.
And that’s absolutely Fine. I’m not asking for Mage to be one of the best decks (i particularly like middle of the pack decks); i am asking that when the experts define the class as this:
"Mage is in a pretty rough spot. Spell Mage may still win some turn 2 Flow games that linger in your memory, but a large sample size cannot lie. Its matchup spread has gotten worse across the board and it looks plain mediocre in the aftermath of the Spring Water nerf. That 2% nudge in the deck’s overall win rate makes all the difference.
The class’ problem is that nothing else looks remotely competitive. Wildfire and Spell-Damage Mage are two of the worst decks in the format. Jaina needs some mini-set help"
And the best deck is Tier 3 at legend and tier 4 everywhere else, the Devs should be aware enough to not try to push a 4th incomplete archetype then. God, this is some Paladin level problem right here.
And you’re right, they are highly paid, but still not able to properly balance classes. They have several tools for Mage, and then gave some more, and none of them synergize well enough to amount to anything. They seem to only be able to print absolute blowouts or clearly underpowered stuff
I get legend every month; play what you have but the issue with mage right now is, it’s either overpowered or it’s weak. I can’t help you with that. Spell mage is still played a lot.
And watching you play solitaire is not fun for anyone. It was featured in grand masters recently in almost everyone’s lists so what is your issue exactly?
Imagine that, running a tier 3 deck in grand masters tournament the last 2 months. what were they thinking?
Remind me again why so many people still que control warlock when it sucks.
Even VS agrees that mage is hopelessly weak in Standard now.
The devs are either bad at their jobs or they dislike Mage.
Just to say.
DOL was ALWAYS broken.
It’s mulligan Winrate in spell mage ALWAYS was above 65%. Even during Darkmoon faire.
The thing is that the rest of the deck was bad at said time. So bad that it wasn’t even funny.
Then we got rising spring water and the non lunacy matches got better enough to the deck not feel like depending 100% on lunacy being played on the curve.
By the deck both not disappearing after deck of lunacy nerf and getting down to bellow tier 3 after rising spring water nerf I think it should be clear enough what happened.
The theory that devs magically made a better spell pool makes 0 sense when you could literally get stuff like survival of the fittest in a deck with 0 minions.
I think that it’s important for people to understand what really happened and why.
Otherwise nothing is learned.
He never has anything positive to say; apparenlty only plays mage and all he does is post about how bad mage is. Don’t think I have ever seen anything positive out of him. But if you dare question him, you must be bad. That or the devs, a job he’d never get, must be worse. Just what it seems.
I have praised devs plenty in the past. The fact that you weren’t here for it is meaningless.
I can play that game too; the fact that you think you are some important sage is also meaningless.
You are super bitter about mage. Mage is in a very good spot at the moment, and have been for a while.
I don’t think I’m important. In this particular instance my point is valid.
Mage has two decks that are below tier four that needed support.
Team 5 chose to print cards that are useless to either deck,
leaving Standard with one playable mage deck that VS said was
now weak against the other nine.