Loatheb is now in the standard core set (hypothetical event)

Thoughts?

Reactions?

Curious to hear.

I think a lot of people would complain about him on the forums and whine for nerfs.

So yeah… a bad idea to bring a top tier wild card into a much weaker format.

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He would be an auto-include, Blizzard wouldn’t like it, probs will nerf him really hard or remove him asap. The guy still sees play in Wild!!! If he would be available in standard, almost all decks would consider running him, since delaying key spells is huge for almost every deck.

However, if some minion based decks become meta (like Deathrattle DH), I could see him dropping in priority.

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It would be ok.

It’s most busted in darkglare warlock and no standard deck can abuse it that much. Similar, it’s an anti combo tool for control and a finisher.

However,
a) Control can at most gain 1 turn vs combo decks and it might change nothing anyway.
b) The tool isn’t that effective as an aggro finishing move since control decks either have cleared the board anyway or play rush minions/taunts. (loatheb turn 5, priest plays elemental taunt on turn 6)

Against this stands,
a) Tempo rogue variations will massively gain by including Loatheb (miracle would currently be tier 1 imo)
b) Some archetypes are very suscepitble and would definitly take a bit hig
c) Mallenroh would qq for ages;)

He’s better in wild than currently in standard. Wild is more synergy dependent and faster.

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This makes sense, but we can’t really know for sure unless it was allowed in Standard.

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Would be alright if they nerfed him to ā€œbattlecry only works if your deck contains no other 5 cost cardsā€ Ć  la Kazakus

That would probably be overkill, unless they would seriously buff his effect. New Kazakus has a big condition, but also a big enough effect to create a win condition by itself.

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Only if you change his entrance line from ā€œI see youā€¦ā€ to ā€œI see nerfs!ā€

He would be nerfed into unrecognizable oblivion.

If you really want to see some tears, bring Thaurissan back to Standard…

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rab…i like your nerf suggestion but…instead i’d go with ā€œif your deck has no duplicate opponent spells cost +5 manaā€ā€¦but honestly even that would not likely fix the combo with giants in wild…so i stick to my ā€œspell cost +3ā€ nerf…and honestly i’d go down to 2 but that would kill the card for other decks type

Honestly just not bring it back.

It has it’s place in wild and people who like wild have fun with him.

It’s so good that I even play him in my pirate warrior deck when I meet too many druids and other control decks even though he’s not a pirate.

Thaurissan actually was in standard for a couple of weeks during an event in late 2019. He saw only some niche play in the OTK Shirvallah deck, I think.

I think Loatheb would be more populare than thaurissan, but not as strong as some people describe him. His effect itself is fine, the broken thing in wild is being able to reduce the cost of giants to 0 Mana by turn 5 and playing 21/21 worth of stats, or even more, by turn 5.
Thats obviously not possible in standard. He could be used as a finisher, to punish opponents if they aren’t able to clear your board.
I think almost every agressive board centric board would play the card, many peoply would complain, but the card would be fine. :slight_smile:

Would probably arrive as a 6 mana 5/5 if I had to guess.

Who said Kazakus wasn’t talking about nerfs in the first one hehe.

It’s not the possible combos that is the problem, is the idea that you bring an anti-counter card for aggro/midrange decks in a meta that is already full of aggro and midrange. Most decks in tier 1/2 in standard right now are very agressive, so why would you buff them?

Yeah, if Loatheb was added to standard I’m sure lots of decks would run him, hunter, dr dh, rush warrior, ele shaman, and he would rek Priest and spell druid.

I loved Loatheb when he was around ,but he would unbalance the current meta.

While the card is great, it 'll make aggro deck even stronger against control. Mage and Warlock will be even worst, Priest will be killed and DH / Hunter/Shaman will become even better than they are now.

Not sure it would be the best time to bring this card in standard.

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With the way this meta is right now, loatheb would turn this game into a miracle rogue/hunter/DH meta at best. Even shaman would be screwed by loatheb to some extent.

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