Is this video for real?

I mean could it be that all the games I have played were already decided? That all my choices in game really had no bearing on it. That the outcome of the game was decided before I would even play? I am concerned and confused. Before you make a judgement on this I suggest watching it!

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It’s hard to prove and this been around for a long time this info way back when I was playing in 2015 or 2016 I hear about it someone posted about.

Well this video I think is fairly recently made. Maybe the info was around back then but this is truly concerning. If the matches were predetermined and not random and the outcomes decided before the match would even start meaning that they completely wasted our time. That the efforts I made and all the time I spent trying to improve were in vain!

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The problem with this is blizzard would face a mega legal battle in courts because this like fixing a slot machine in a casino.

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slot machines are fixed,every each of them haha :slight_smile: the only luck with slots is that you have enough luck and sit by slot that gives money at that moment…they are fixed to give money,I do not know exact percent,it depends,but if they’re full they will give you at some point like 30 percent of all money they have inside

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If the video is talking about the patent, it doesn’t necessarily mean the game is rigged in a way that means that card draws are predetermined.

Matchmaking and power levels of cards and new expansions do the process of trying to sell cards.

You don’t need to manipulate card draw when you can instead just match someone with a higher winrate vs a lower winrate to try and push sales for someone who is losing. Or push a lower winrate vs a higher winrate to encourage someone to stay.

And you can do that process over multiple games without any card manipulation and end up with a similar result of trying to manipulate people.

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Isn’t that still a rigged game? A predetermined outcome? Or a likely predetermined outcome?

Sure but there is a very non sinister reason to manipulate matchmaking.

And that is to protect new players or old players with bad decks. If you lose every single game to 20 DHs in a row running the latest meta face deck, do you think those people are going to stick around? Probably not.

Manipulated matchmaking is one way to protect them. Obviously this is just speculation based on the patent. But it’s more just me playing devils advocate about how rigging doesn’t need to be just straight up determining card draw.

I don’t want protection! I want a game that’s not manipulated. If they can’t handle losing then tough! I want a fair game not manipulation. This needs to be investigated!

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By who? Who is going to care enough? It’s literally just a card game. The most people will ever get is maybe having digital packs be considered gambling, but otherwise it’s essentially a pointless thing to worry about.

And this is assuming the system is even in place in Hearthstone.

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It’s people’s time and their money and their lives. Is there anything in the terms and conditions letting me know that I am playing a game that already has determined my opponents?

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How do you know there’s a system in Hearthstone that does that though? That’s the problem with all these manipulation threads.

Unless there’s proof of manipulation it’s just speculation.

I could say FF14 is rigged because I failed 3 60% chances in a row and then a 78% chance. But completely ignore the two 7% chances that I hit in a row.

Just because you feel like something is rigged doesn’t mean it is. Hearthstone could actually just have a normal matchmaking system outside of just making things a bit safer for new players and there’s actually no manipulation outside of that.

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i mean if blizzard make 10 billion dollars screwing their fans and pay in 500 million fines it seems worth the effort.

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It’s real in the sense that the patent exists, but not in the sense that it proves anything in the slightest about rigging.

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There are numerous applications of that tech that are positives for players.

Further, there’s nothing that suggests HS uses that tech. I am not saying it doesn’t but one would need to confirm that with Blizz before I would accept it as factual.

I can not find this number US9789406B2 in the data base of the USA patents website for public info search.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9789406B2/en

its not that hard to prove. the devs themselves have said their “aim” to have everyone have a 50% win rate.

only way they can “aim” is to rig system

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It’s real. I looked at it yesterday, actually. Read through most of it.

Post a link from the actual .gov site because I can not find it.

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fast forward to 2 minutes into the originally linked video to read the abstract from their patent application. They spell out that the rigging is there to “drive players to purchase weapons / items to match higher marquee players” .

Glad I’ve long stopped giving blizzard money

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