Im playing it for 5-6 hours ,impressive winrate around 65+% and the matches you lose is thanks to extremely bad luck . The amount of armor is absurd and the times you respawn your buffed starship also absurd , you literally autospam a buffed starship .
You think is the first class they will nerf or totally kill ?
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Armor dh is choking all aggro decks, all control decks and almost all midrange decks. Yes its a problem.
Guess why theres only 3 decks running new cards? You cant play the new cards in the other classes. Youre dead whenever the dh wants you to die if you play imbue priest, warrior or anything that cant somehow get under the dh.
Also theres no disruption worth running. Yes you can silence the arkonite crystal if you want to handicap your other matchups but guess what? It gets rezzed anyway. Yes you can put rat in but theres too many copies of key cards.
Yes. Armor dh is a huge problem because it chokes out about 90% of the other decks and so many of the new cards.
Remember zerg hunter got hotfixed because apparently 1 mana 53/53 with rush is a little hard to deal with? Yeah. This is the same deal. This deck gets millions of armor and guess what, the OTK is near impossible to dodge too. Unless you rat exodar.
It should be the first deck they hopefully kill, dismember and torch it. And send it into the sun. Assuming they want anyone to play the new expansions cards. Dont care for its winrate, its probably “just” 65% because mirrors exist.
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Yeah but you cant put Rat just to have a chance to summon Exodar ,because the chances to summon a free deathrattle is higher . Rat interaction was always problematic and sign of bad meta . Im expectiing big nerfs at the particular DH deck ,another example HS need to be tested before new cards get released ,they playtest nothing
Yeah my point exactly. This game has such limited ways of disrupting whats going on in opponents hand or deck its laughable. This kind of combo deck just gets to do whatever it wants.
Given blizzards abysmal track record with handling these kinds of oppressive decks it will probably take them months (close to next expansion or miniset) to do anything. Look how long it took to touch zerg infestor. The whole set passed before they went “wait, we made a whoopsie”.
Unless the sales of the shiny new cards dip enough and they have to torch it. Like with azerite snake and zerg hunter.
I have dropped exodar and changed how I play it now.
I get a turret and a couple of crystals up and then just use Felbat, cube, and return policy to continue to summon windfury taunts. You can overwhelm basically anything.
I rarely play Felhunter anymore because it clogs the Felbat pool.
I am 10-0 today since I stopped playing greedy and started going more aggressive with the ships.
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Imo there will be a lot of problematic deck if we only nerf DH.
I already experienced what hunter could do with 10-20+ dmg charge minion on turn 6-7.
I played against a deathrattle DH that didn’t even played the starship peace. Instead played the discount demons card and kept resummoning and then pulled out from the deck more deathrattle stuff. (Can’t remember the card name, the one where end of turn they go back into the deck) then they also discount the 8/8 rush, then go face demon. That’s was scary deck too.
There is a talk about some broke warlock deck too.
And I still hate protoss mage.
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We will see some surprises the next days thats for sure
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Any deck that warps the meta around it to only be played a specific way is a problem. Yes the deck is a problem but not because it’s unbeatable.
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It is a problem, yes. It auto-plays itself. You just set out the curve and click 3/4s down onto the board until late game.
The problem is the infinite deathrattle interactions that bring Armor 3/4s back to life over and over and over again (Ravenous Felhunter 5/3 and Arkonite 3/4). Even if you’re running x2 Royal Librarians it makes no impact at all.
Infiltrate and Corpse Explotion guarantee you can board clear forever.
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Everyone and their mama are playing either leech DK or armor DH.
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I don’t even use Exodar for the damage. I have never won using him. I win with the launched ships and continued summons and with KJ.
I’m also using priest tourist to get resummons over and over.
Exodar isn’t even the problem.
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I agree.
I think the win rate will go even higher when people move all the way away from greedy big ships and start just putting out too much pressure with smaller ones in the 8/12 windfury/rush type. Summoning two or more of those a turn for a couple turns ends games really fast.
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No it isn’t. The real problem is the lack of tech cards to actually deal with it. There is no reason why Platebreaker or a neutral transform/MC card isn’t in standard.
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I’d say it’s highly likely that an emergency patch is on the way for armor DH. Imbue hunter, imbue protoss mage, leech DK and other possible outliers will probably be adressed in a couple of weeks.
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No one would really run that. If you have to have a tech card in standard just to deal with 1 deck, it means the deck is an issue. Bandaid fixes aren’t the way to balance, you have to address the core problem.
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Seems pretty clear that Blizzard does not want neutral techs or counters to their shiny new toys in the latest expansion that rake in the dough. You saw how they neutered Reno so it would not touch locations or starships. We will see some half-hearted nerf to some cards while players try to find even crazier combinations to counter DH with.
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Reno was disgusting and deserved the nerfs.
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This is a hot take if I seen one. It is also silly as most hot takes are.
If the problem is the lack of counter to something then that something is the problem. It is pretty obvious logic that does not need a well educated lawyer or philosopher.
Ponder this:
Person A: AIDS was a problem in the 80s.
Person B: Nah, AIDS was fine, the problem was that we had no treatment for it.
I.e. we would not need a treatment if there was no disease and Platebreaker would be not needed if Team 5 did not allow DH to get hundreds of armor in a single game. Simples.
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Warlock was able to do the 200 armor abuse of that starship taunt well before armor DH came into the picture and it was fringe.
The problem is that the game has slowed down so much that people can play these stall decks without much of a fear due to rotating out all the fun/fast cards/decks that kept them honest.
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Theres a new egg hunter deck that looks like the only decent aggro deck in the meta at the moment though. It looks like the only real thing right now that can kill armor DH before it is able to get going.
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