If there’s a 9/9 Rattlegore and you target it with Serena Bloodfeather, and it becomes a 4/4, will it spawn a 3/3 or an 8/8 when it dies? It seems like there’s some inconsistency with how Rattlegore works, so I was curious as to what would happen here.
There is no inconsistency at all, the rattlegore effect when summoned doesn’t say “ death rattle- resuming with 8/8 stats”, it said resuming with -1/1.
So if it dies at 4/4 naturally it will resummon with 3/3
Don’t see the confusion here the wording is pretty straightforward
Rattlegore gets resummoned with a -1/-1 from the previous BASE stats, buffs or debufs do not influence it’s resummon. So a base 9/9 will return as an 8/8 if you for example subdue it into a 1/1.
From the WiKi:
- Each Rattlegore is resummoned with -1/-1 what the previous Rattlegore’s base stats was. Setting Rattlegore’s stats to a lower or higher value will not affect the next one to be summoned.
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all debuffs/buffs are lost when a minion is destroyed so itll summon a 8/8
It will be 8/8 if its consistent with how Rattlegore has worked since he was released.
lol don’t worry! Priest has many ways to deal with Rattlegore.
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That’s not how Rattlegore works.
Rattlegore and Swampqueen Hagatha create new versions of cards when their effect is triggered.
So that’s why the 8/8 Rattlegore that comes from the DR of a 9/9 Rattlegore will retain 8/8 stats when silenced.
The same thing happens to any other minion which takes the Rattlegore DR, gets killed and is subsequently silenced (though those other minions will not retain the Rattlegore matryoshka doll effect beyond the first DR).
Wow.
You don’t see the confusion but you got it all wrong.
You are the most confused of them all.
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Effectively, Rattlegore has this deathrattle;
Deathrattle: Summon an 8/8 Rattlegore with the Deathrattle: Summon a 7/7 Rattlegore with the Deathrattle: Summon a 6/6 Rattlegore with the Deathrattle: Summon a 5/5 Rattlegore with the Deathrattle: Summon a 4/4 Rattlegore with the Deathrattle: Summon a 3/3 Rattlegore with the Deathrattle: Summon a 2/2 Rattlegore with the Deathrattle: Summon a 1/1 Rattlegore.
Obviously that can’t fit on the card, so it’s simplified.
Essentially, unless Silenced, Rattlegore’s deathrattle will summon a Rattlegore with 1 less attack and health than the base stats of the previous Rattlegore.
which means if you randomly generate a rattlegore with 1/1 stats, regardless whether you buff him to 20/20, he will become 0/0 after death and no respawn.
And similarly, if you were to randomly summon a 10/10 rattlegore, when he dies he’d become a 9/9 !
Not quite. A new Rattlegore summon, no matter its stats, becomes an 8/8 Rattlegore when it dies.
However, a copied Rattlegore will copy the current Deathrattle. For example, if you have a 5/5 Rattlegore (becoming a 4/4 when it dies), and you use Shadowy Figure on it, the 2/2 Rattlegore becomes a 4/4 Rattlegore when it dies.
I sounds like you’re being a bit confused with what happens if the deathrattle is copied by something like Vectus’ whelps.
This topic is bringing back good memories from an old Brawl where I had Rattlegore and Da Undatakah in a random deck. Nothing better than Undatakah turning into an 8/8, 7/7 and 6/6 Rattlegore at the same time.
yes. Please explain what actually happens, I was inferring statements based off what another poster said.
If if used priest Idol to summon a 10/10 rattlegor (somehow), what happens when it dies?
Likewise, what happens to rattlegore you pull from Jepetto?
And whelps from Vectus
With the whelps, the Deathrattle sees it was attached to a 1/1 Whelp (and not a Rattlegore), so the next step down is a 0/0.
Technically for Rattlegore itself, each step is a new unique (and uncollectible) card, so anything that summons a Rattlegore with non-standard stats should not have an impact on the chain. But there are (or at least have been) some buffs that carry over like Grandmummy’s +1/+1.
I don’t think it will work like that. For example, Undatakah still turns into an 8/8 Rattlegore despite being 7/5 (provided it took the DR of a 9/9 Rattlegore and not a weaker one). So I think a 1/1 Whelp will turn into a 8/8 Rattlegore. If I turn out to be wrong, there’s an inconsistency.
Nope Rattlegore deathrattle ignores debuffs. Otherwise there would be an upside to Paladin removal!