Team 5 has teased this for years.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I am sick and tired of a deck tracker that freezes up repeatedly, and has to be forced to shut down from Task manager.
I suspect why we cant have one has something to do with HSR being connected to the Deck tracker.
If so, that smacks of a sweetheart deal.
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Finally.
Someone whining about something that is atleast worth whine for.
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Glad you approve:)
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You know.
We really should pressure the Dev team more into making QOL features.
Cards and metagame get in and out but those still until the server closes someday.
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I would love to see it if only for the simple fact that everyone should have the same tools to play the game with.
But mainly because HDT and Firestone both are crap.
The fact we don’t even have one at this age of the game makes me think (not 100% serious) HSR and FS pay some sort of premium per whatever so Blizz doesn’t release one.
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They prolly have hard enough time getting the monetizing of the game as it is, and someone convinced them that even tho these exist that if they in turn made one in house it would just be such a bad PR move that the risk taken for possible monetizable feature wouldnt be worth it.
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They should have banned deck tracker.
That is not something you want for pros to use in a tournament live.
That is not fair for mobile players who has no such access.
That is something similar to counting cards in casino, where you get banned for life.
It’s a slippery slope-next thing is just an outright bot playing cards for everyone . It will go for the odds of winning you set each turn and play itself.
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Its no different than if you had a pen and paper at your side to be able to note things down for reference. Its a little bit super detail oriented as many of the things one could note I would never think to myself, but everything it shows is nothing that couldnt just be notated by the player in real life.
Blizz cannot stop anyone from doing such a thing as notating things while they play and so they see these trackers as just the exact same thing. While they could stop you from using the tracker they couldnt stop you from using paper and pen, so why bother stopping you from using the tracker? ethically its no different to do either, and ethically it would be wrong to ban people from using one and not the other and there’d be no way of knowing or enforcing if you used paper and pen. (regular gameplay out in the world).
talkin about a tournament? sure, you can make that a rule, its a tourney. they can make their own rules.
Also counting cards is very much the same thing as just being observant and being able to do math. There is no law against it and would be very unconstitutional in many places to even try to make a law that did do so. The only thing casinos can do is ask you to leave because you are affecting their business model of the odds favor the House. They are not obliged to continue to gamble with you anymore and can trespass you if you refuse to leave. No different than when a business bans a Karen from their place of business for being a Karen. It isnt illegal but they dont have to put up with it either.
If abuses were being made, thats different. Not all Karens are abusive Karens. and by that same logic not all Deck Trackers are exploits or game abuses. If its just being observant and doesnt actually do anything at all to allow cheats to occur, then there isnt a real issue here.
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Why can’t there be a tracker for mobile?
I think everyone should have access to the same tools.
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Hey Mall. 
I hope you’re doing well.
I agree with Scrotie, and that is that Blizzard will gladly hand off work to others (in this case deck tracker (whichever one)). In the case of WoW, it’s addons. In the case of Hearthstone, it’s of course deck trackers and even data aggregators. It’s really as simple as that, I believe.
Edit: I should add that I do agree. I am to almost always able to seemlessly play with the deck tracker. However, this is clearly unfair for mobile players because there are no mobile trackers. For that reason, I believe that’s justification to add some sort of in-game deck tracker.
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I’ve never used a deck tracker and I consistently get top 200 Legend NA. Bunnyhopper doesn’t use one either and he’s the world champion and is always in top 10 legend. I don’t see why this game needs a tracker. You are better off just not using one in my opinion, it takes a lot of thinking and memorization out of the game.
The way trackers function on PC cannot function on a mobile device because of the access that is granted to certain parts of the operating system/certain folders not allowed to access by the user or any app at all/ permissions needed that arent even allowed to be permissions to be given by anyone, let alone a user.
The way it was described to me was that a phone user is allowed to give their email app permission to use and view and even edit their photos and contacts list. However they can’t give permission to their email app to view let alone modify their phone’s OS and other app’s root folders of data. This is key to allow a deck tracker to keep a library of all the cards as it would reference the folder in your hearthstone app that holds all the cards in the game. Because if you could do this and go one further, edit anything in those folders, you could essentially allow any app to freely allow itself to overwrite your phone’s OS or other Apps in-app links and such and basically allow hijacking and phishing to be a permanent issue to deal with inside of any and all apps.
So they would need a way to design a deck tracker that doesnt utilize any of this nearly mandatory access to said folders and data. Its like asking someone to open a regular physical door with a regular physical key but they have to do so as if they had the physical permissions that Stephen Hawking would be able to use.
You had me on the first part about thinking, but Im not with you on the 2nd. As a person with issues in that area, the less Im required to memorize the more enjoyable life across the spectrum gets. So games that require it upfront have a built in Gatekeeper mentality to them for me.
__Like most math classes are to me. I’d love to learn statistical analysis and even theoretical physics, higher dimensional geometry, and so on… but without the ability to memorize formulas, multiplication tables, factors, etc I am forever denied that knowledge despite being perfectly functional in said classes. When allowed to, I would use the mult. table, a sheet of formulas to refer to, or even just a basic calculator to punch in simpler functions to allow me to work out the answer from its constituent parts. None of which is cheating nor shortcutting to an answer such as use of scientific calculator to put entire problems into. I’d still be doing the work, just not purposefully handicapped by others by requiring the fascistic regurgitation of certain things by memory. I’d love to learn more but those elite that require memorization of things as a way of gatekeeping are just jerks. Fascist Jerks. Jerkcists.
Yeah, Jerkcists. Dont be one!
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By your reasoning, you can write all your conditions and strategies in a program, Blizzard should now allow Bots
Um, I dont know what you mean by that. Writing the code of a strategy to use is also not against the rules. Making that code play for you, is against the rules.
\Being observant and noting things isnt against the rules. Having a program that does exactly the same thing, and nothing beyond that, is also, not against the rules.
being observant =/= using a bot
Its akin to using a calculator irl to figure out if you have lethal damage or not before you begin your combo that may or may not kill your opponent. At no point would anyone think thats not allowed to be used while in the comfort of your own home playing a video game. “hold up, lemme take a sec to do some maths… okay here we go.”
Now if one took a step further and plugged into said calculator the ability to click the things on the screen for me and I no longer had control of the mouse, that’s the step too far. But being told basic things such as how many cards are in my hand, their hand, my deck their deck, how long each card in hand has been in hand, how many pirates have been played for the quest, how large either of our C’thun is, is not in any way cheating or bot behavior, it is just remaining observant for me to reference as needed.
What you suggest takes far more steps beyond this which is obviously not my reasoning. What I reason is to write down what has happened already. not to write down what can or will happen such as a strategy or what to do when certain conditions are met. That’s programming a bot to play for you. Not what a deck tracker does at all. Its just a tedious note taker.
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Personally I’m glad that deck tracker is run by the actual professionals who know what they’re doing and not this third-rate small indie company known as blizzard. They’d surely manage to make it much worse and then put it behind a paywall anyway.
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They already do put HSReplay behind a paywall for all the features. But the free version, much like playing BGs without the pass, works well enough for the features Ive outlined thus far. But the extra features given cant possibly be worth any actual money so far as I can tell. Unlike the bg pass which has a slight value of giving me 2 additional chances of not auto quitting for better heroes to pick from. when I play without it ill auto quit about 3 out of 4 times before i join a game and play. with the pass, its usually the same but maybe closer to 5 out of 8 i will auto quit instead.
I suspect, the In-House Deck Tracker has been in development for many years.
Unfortunately, it’s not rigged enough by Blizzard standards, so they can’t release it yet.
Besides, you don’t really think, they develop something for free, it must be necessarily a pay-to-track app.
In-game deck tracker would be a nice QoL improvement. Along with the squelch toggle they said 2 years ago that they’re starting to work on.
I agree. Deck Trackers being only available to PC players gives them an edge (even if only a slight edge) over mobile players.
Exactly. This also goes for the Autosquelch feature which is available for PC players but not mobile players.
It’s very different. The tracker give you an instantaneous report of the status of the game. And it doesn’t make errors. Writing down all that information by hand takes a lot of time which limits your available time to make your game plays. And you could write something down incorrectly.
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But this isn’t about you.
Is it? There are scripts right now that play the game for you. People have been using them to farm XP since the new rewards track was implemented. Blizzard has not prohibited that practice. Further, the Autosquelch feature that many players use on PC is a bot script that automatically clicks the opposing hero and then clicks the squelch button. I asked a Blizzard rep about these sorts of scripts and if there would be any penalty for using them. I was told that no penalty would apply for using such scripts.
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WTF are you on about, troll?
How can you rig a deck tracker?!?
The game isnt rigged, deck trackers arent rigged, you are a fool AND a troll.
Bring evidence when claiming riggery, or dont speak on the topic.
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