And his OTK. I just like to know.
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Not really sure what you’d expect their “thoughts” to be. Shirvallah synergizes with Holy Wrath in a way that allows Paladins to kill their opponent, meaning there’s potential to build a deck around them (which Paladin players have successfully done in multiple metas). The deck is powerful against specific archetypes while being weak to others, and as a result is meta-dependent. What else is there to say, especially coming from the Devs of all people?
Probably that its fine, given that in any but the slowest of metas, its vulnerable to a wide enough variety of decks (not just Aggro) that it has zero chance of taking over the meta.
If your point is that “OTK is BS”, then they’d likely just disagree with you.
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Nah i just wanted to talk about it. I teched vs facehunter and then played him. I think the card is cancer but ok its just me.
The only good thing about this meta is that otk pally isn’t relevant. Deck is pretty autopilot and auto wins vs slow decks and auto loses to aggro. Pretty boring deck
OTK Paladin isn’t very fun to play against, I’ll give you that. However, there are techs against the deck that every one can play, and Rogue (the best class in Standard right now) has access to Flik, which also just nullifies the deck’s entire gameplan. The deck (and by extension Shirvallah) aren’t that dangerous imo.
I play mage, and as such a find myself in a game where he kills all my big minions heals back up and i know whats comming and i cant do anything against it because he heals all dmg done. I had 30 health plus 2 armor when he OTKed me. And i knew it was coming 20 rounds before. Whatever.
If OTK Paladin is a huge concern, then you can always try playing tech cards (see: Hakkar) that improve or even downright win the matchup. The issue is that, like most tech cards, your matchups versus other decks will also decrease.
It’s a pretty bad deck right now in this meta full of tier 1 aggros. If you’re playing mage you should not complain that you’re losing to it.
Winrate is everything, ok i got it. Its not top tier deck? Stop complain. Ok.
Nah, its a weak tier 2 deck. Just look it up on HSreplay. You’re also playing a weak tier 2 class (mage), that’s why your having problems against Holy Wrath paladin.
Your comment before made me uninstal the game. Im beeing honest here. You say i have no right to complain so i just leave it. The game and its environment just isnt for me. If it’s all top tier decks or shut up then fuk this. I have no business playing this game. I play only one class focused on control. Whatever. Fuk this game.
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Chill bro. You just lost some games and you’re enraged by it. Take some days off and your mental sanity will be fine again.
slightly off-topic… but Shirvallah is not an OTK deck. you need to do at least 5 damage, then you can do up to 25 damage with Holy Wrath. if you dont want to count playing your entire deck, dealing 5+ damage, then blasting your opponent for 25 as non-OTK, then its at the very least a TTK deck.
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You opened up the panel for discussion, and the topic you made appears to be about whether or not OTK Paladin is a problem. From a larger perspective that takes the entire game itself and it’s variety of player types into consideration, it is not.
The reason folks will say that a lower tier deck isn’t worth complaining about is because that deck is likely making a subset of the playerbase happy by enabling their preferred method of engaging the game without unbalancing the metagame as a whole.
If your approach to the game is
then you have to accept that your archetype and preferred method of playing will have both good and bad matchups, just like the decks that are favorable against you. This is true in absolutely any CCG, not just Hearthstone.
Take your complaints about Shirvallah Paladin, but reword them to be focused on Control Mage. I guarantee there are plenty of players out there who feel exactly that way. That doesn’t make Mage a problem.
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not an OTK deck. if you dont get a certain amount of damage in before you play HW, you just foiled your self. the deck requires more than 1 turn of setup before you can HW face!
sorry for the spam @OP & others, but i dont understand why people refer to this deck as OTK when its not.
/end spam.
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Just because it requires setup doesn’t mean the deck isn’t OTK. If you can deal 25 damage with one spell, the deck focusing around surviving until it guarantees that 25 damage is, by definition, OTK.
It’s darn close so it’s often referred to as such, but I had already fixed the name before your post 
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no, the meaning of one turn kill is quite literal. this requires more than 1 turn of setup.
but you’re killing your opponent in one turn (hence the “K” in “OTK”). Just because I use some cost reducers (say, Thaurissan) or specific card draw (say, Jepetto) to help smooth things out doesn’t make the combo or deck itself any less of an OTK.