If your MMR is too low, you will NEVER CLIMB

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There’s a point where even if you start to win the majority of your games, you won’t climb.

Your garbage MMR from when you were new, goofing off, or ‘tilted’ will just continue to screw you.

Blizzard’s algorithm will continue to milk you for money and return frustration.

My advice is this, don’t play ‘fun’ decks in ranked unless you really don’t care about ranks or climbing.

It’s a slippery slope.

With terrible MMR…

You will lose more points when you lose than what you will win if you win.

How are the same people on top Legend each season ?

Well, they do deserve to be there but it helps that when they win…their rank goes up = or greater to the amount that it goes down when they lose.

In short, having a decent MMR makes it easy to climb and stay where you belong.

I can guarantee there are plenty of Legend players that deserve to be top 1,000 but their MMR is so trash canned that it’s impossible for them to climb even if they (have) improve(d).

There’s the secret sauce my friends.

I hope this little secret helped some of your angst.

MMR does not reset each season.

Only rank resets.

Therefore, actually try to win each game if you really want to have any hope of climbing.

Now, whether you believe me or not…that is up to you but quite frankly I don’t care.

Just putting this information out there. :upside_down_face:

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If you win your MMR goes up. It’s that simple. If you beat someone higher than you, it goes up more. If you beat someone lower than you, it goes up less.

What you’re describing is the opposite of how it works. Where are you getting your MMR numbers from?

If you purposefully lose a lot of games, why should the matchmaker ignore them?

I mean, this isn’t even the ELO Hell complaint from mobas, where the other four people are the scapegoats for your personal failures. This game it’s just you.

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Well, some folks don’t know about MMR being completely different from Rank.

They goof off, thinking they will just climb back when they’re done and their MMR is just screwed for all eternity.

:sweat_smile:

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(citation needed)

If you start winning all your games your MMR will quickly rise. Streamers do it all the time on new accounts, you can watch it happen.

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This was really confusing until I realized you meant climbing within Legend rather than climbing to Legend.

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Yeah, that’s on new accounts.

Completely different.

I made a new account once at Bronze 39 and I was playing against players in top 1,000 Legend.

My point is, if an account has several thousand games on it already…the MMR is already set so it’s very hard to impossible for them to climb.

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Makes perfect sense

aaand you lost me…

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You’re right that the MMR uncertainty is higher on new accounts, but it’s not immobile on old ones. Smash noobs for twenty games in a row and you will get harder opponents.

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Yeah, I guess I should have mentioned that.

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This situation only occurs if you are a higher mmr than your opponent. If you are a lower mmr than your opponent it will be the opposite

Edit. I see I got bamboozled, it was not clear to me this was in reference to within legend.

I had this the first season of the new system but it has gotten a lot better.

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lack of skill is the only thing that will screw you over

you will lose to random stuff, but skill wins out every time

make a new account, tank its MMR then try ranking up, you will get as high as you are now but no higher

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Your relative Rank at Legend isn’t even a true manifestation of your skill anyway. Being top 100 or 500 or 1,000 isn’t special. I reach top 1k Legend in Wild each month, but the real separation of skill mostly occurs within the two digit levels.

I think it is annoying that you can win a game and still drop because of relative MMR at Legend rank. It’s counterintuitive for most of us who are still used to the old system.

In any case, Rank means nothing to me anymore aside from the prizes. I get my 5 packs, 1 epic, and 7 rares. Plenty of dust to go around.

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Your legend rank isn’t your MMR, though.

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Wait, it sounds like you’re just agreeing with me.

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MMR = how many packs did you buy with real money.

Higher # of packs you buy with real money, more matches you will win as blizzard wants to reward you.

If you don’t use real money to buy packs; blizzard doesn’t give a rats behind about you and wants you to go away.

proof? I don’t buy packs and can’t get past bronze 5 now.

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lmao. My 8 year old son plays this game. He has no money, has spent no money on the game, he’s honestly terrible in an objective sense, makes gaffs all the time, and he’s silver 6 right now.

L2P, bro.

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Been playing for a while. But keep on losing, regardless what deck I use.

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I assure that it is unrelated to money spent. I am f2p and I get diamond 5 each month without really breaking a sweat.

Maybe you should start a thread showing us one of your matches and we can help you make different choices to lead to better outcomes.

What deck are you playing right now?

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Actually what he said sadly is actually pretty true about MMR systems.

A MMR system try to put you where you belong and once it believes you’re were you belong…

Good luck getting out of said place.

It can easily get to an point were you’re better doing a new account because it basically starts to give less and less for wins despite of it being a sequence or not.

In other words. The more you play the less your MMR variates.

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