If they're putting offers like this in the shop

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You didn’t give advice, nor was it even remotely good. You instantly looked down, saying I am “playing the game the wrong way” without even asking how I play it or trying to find reasons for people playing it differently than you do.

Even after multiple explanations, especially about how the saving up phase you went through isn’t suited for every playstyle, you still ignore it and keep rambling about how big your collection is.

Like I said, your playstyle wouldn’t fit mine, and I would be bored out of my mind. I explained how my style suits me well, I explained why I don’t need a full collection at any given time but only as much as I play during that time.

And it was never about getting advice. I simply stated that this offer isn’t specifically aimed at people with little dust or small collections, because I don’t have it in the store while falling under these two attributes.

So don’t make it look like you’re just here to give good advice. You made it about yourself because you’re full of yourself. You entirely made up that my way wouldn’t work, ignoring that I explained that it does and how it does, and based on your false and ignorant assumption, you keep going on and praising yourself.

You’re probably just butthurt about the fact that I was the one who pointed out that your entire thread and assumption failed miserably given the fact that the offers are individual

which is why you started attacking me. But nice try at getting yourself off the hook.

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Good thing there’s a record here!

Huh. Looks like advice right there.

I mean, you’re paying money, still not able to make everything you want, and upset about it.

That doesn’t sound like it’s working, but you do you.

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I never said I can’t make everything I want, I said I do it within a specific time which includes saving up temporarily. When I am done with ranked for a couple of weeks with my homebrews I go play arena for some time until I can go back to ranked and play new homebrews again, which is the perfect and most fun balance for me :wink:

Something you could’ve understand 20 posts ago if you just asked kindly instead of being so busy with explaining how you’re the greatest who has figured out the one and only way to play Hearthstone.

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And you pay to have this convenience. When you’re done waiting, you spend, which is why you aren’t free to play.

I don’t wait and I don’t spend because I manage my resources better, which is the point you don’t want to concede.

Actually, it was a piece of advice I got years ago from someone else. I can’t take any credit for it.

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And after I am done spending I wait aka grind f2p for weeks, which is why I am free to play.

Funny, we’re back to the conclusion that I do both things partially, which is also called semi.

I’m managing my resources in the best way possible. You can’t know of course because you’re too shy to ask, but I’ll gladly shed light onto this aspect too.

Having to earn cards, gold and dust for the next deck I want to build is part of the fun for me. The same way people - and I am not an exception - lose a good chunk of motivation after reaching legend, or legend 50k, or legend 10k; whatever the personal goal was, the same way people - and I am still not an exception - lose motivation if they have everything from the get go.

The next 150g reward? 12 wins in the Arena? Pulling a golden legendary that’s worth 1600 immediate dust? These things are highly enjoyable if I’m on a quest for something.

If I would be sitting on 20k gold and 50k of dust and a full collection, all these things would be meaningless to me.

But achieving to get all resources for my new deck in 2 instead of 3 weeks because I had some fantastic arena runs and lucky boosters feels really good. I also enjoy not to have the paralysis of choice of having all cards available simultaneously, I rather really focus on what’s important to me and then prototype and design a lot, enjoying the learn curve and really master my homebrews. Even if there were 15 decks more that I could play right now, I wouldn’t have the time for it.

To me, you’re playing Hearthstone in the worst and most wrong way possible. That’s how not to play TCG’s and CCG’s which are about the chase of rare and valuable cards and game modes that offer performance based rewards.

I played Legends of Runeterra and ESO Legends, and while both were fantastic and much fun gameplay wise, I quickly had everything the games had to offer entirely f2p. Didn’t feel very inspiring. All the grind, the game modes like the Arena, everything that was based off getting new cards became just pointless.

If you’re not bored out the way you play, that’s great for you. But don’t get fooled by the idea that you’ve figured it out ultimatively. It works for you and a fraction of the playerbase with your particular playing style. For the other part you’re playing Hearthstone in the worst way possible too. Next time, be a bit more open and simply ask instead of making assumptions. But be careful: you could learn something.

That’s all I have left to say about this topic. :wink:

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You sound like someone trying to explain how they’re sober because they only drink on weekends.

You’re not free to play if you buy stuff. There’s no way around it. You are not a free to play player if you spend money on the game.

Keep telling yourself that and keep on spending.

Well then it’s a good thing you aren’t and won’t be.

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You guys should just give up. Go look at the post history of the one you’re talking to.

That should tell you all you need to know. You aren’t speaking to someone who dabbles in logic.

In case you forgot, this is Mr. My Homebrew Deck Beats All Other Meta Decks Consistently guy.

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Yeah but he’s going against Neon so I figured it was an even fight

I had my popcorn out

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Nah, Neon is light years ahead. Whatever disagreements he and I have on other things (like Renathal and Control), he at least has valid and logical arguments on many other things and stays fairly consistent.

These newer posters are pretty much immune to logic.

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Eh, I think Neon was off here on calling his criticism “advice.” Like he’s doing humanity a favor by saying you’re wrong

but yeah it’s not really THAT close

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You will be able to play virtually any deck. The problem is that it isn’t long term sustainable.

While you play any deck day 1 i gonna open decks slowly but surely. See the problem here?

I don’t lose cards to do my decks.

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If you spend Money, you are NOT f2p.

No matter how much.

No f2p.

No semi f2p.

But thanks for the lough :laughing:

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Unless the money spent didn’t unlock a significant part of the game - which it didn’t - and the player still has to acquire the major part of the contents by playing and using f2p resources, then he’s mainly a f2p player.

The word ‘semi’ exists for a reason, don’t be afraid to use it.

However, the entire debate over how to call it was just a poor excuse to deny the fact that someone who doesn’t pre-order and only invests €10 on the day of release will have fewer resources and therefore will need to manage them differently than someone who pre-orders the mega-pack.

So whatever people want to call that way of playing, it doesn’t change these underlying facts.

That’s why it is useful to differentiate between p2p and semi-f2p.

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If someone Kickstart the expension with big PreOrder and Tavern Pass, they’ll not have every card from the new expension.

From this Point, i use my f2p ressources to get the missing Cards

So they are semi-f2p too

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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If you’re doing this then you’re mainly a p2p player.

If you’re doing this

then you’re mainly a f2p player.

If you’re doing a somewhat balanced mix of both then you could call it semi f2p or semi p2p. Because…

…as you just noticed on your own, since you used irony, calling someone a semi-f2p player who unlocked almost the entire expansion by paying wouldn’t quite fit.

So it’s self-explanatory that, in order to call someone semi-something, it’s required that both options don’t outweigh each other too much.

The purpose of language is to make communication easier, but you’re intentionally trying to make it harder.

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No, youre not F2P.

Unless you are ONLY purchasing COSMETICS, you are P2P. Period.

Buy the reward track? Not F2P.
Buy an arena run? Not F2P.

You are a pay to play customer!

You can try to defend your belief of being F2P all you want, but youre not.

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Foxedge has also been active in the German forum for a long time and he has a subtle God complex.

He makes the rules!

He probably also determines how much money you can spend to still be semi-f2p and from when on you are semi-p2p and full-p2p or a whale…

I guess I forgot about that for a moment.

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Silly statements don’t become less silly when you repeat them. But I am glad you made at least some points so we can debate them:

Great! So if buying the reward track makes a player not F2P, what makes not buying the reward track a player?

Fantastic! If I earn another 10 arena runs by playing the game only and fund them through the f2p gold earned, how is it called then?

It’s more that Levi is known in the German forums for his inability to understand basic things and simple mechanisms. People have to spend like 5x the time as with a normal person trying to explain things to him like a toddler.

This enrages him often so that he has to go around and call the other person out, because he is unable to reflect on himself.

Nobody has determined that. It was about simply understanding each other.

The simple statement was that people who don’t pre-order can’t unlock all the decks they want at day 1 and might have to dust some cards in order to craft them. They will be more restricted than someone starting out with 80 packs.

Buying 5 arena tickets for 10€ won’t change that. Buying the reward track also won’t change that. So both players obviously aren’t on the same level, and while one mainly spent money, the other mainly tries to get things f2p.

It’s only your own narrow-mindedness trying to argue about semantics here instead of understanding the subject at hand.

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So If you have a small tattoo but the rest of your skin is not tattooed, you are NOT tattooed but semi-tattooed?

sign!

May the

Epic · Minion · Core · Tradeable Battlecry: Destroy an enemy location.

be with you! (Insider)

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No they dont.

ALL YOUR CLAIMS are silly and not worthy of further debate.

You are NOT F2P.

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