If they're putting offers like this in the shop

Most players in the Arena are pretty strong these days and the barcode decks don’t make it easier.

But you don’t need to be too good, as I said, I invest real money into the Arena too. It’s just a different way of spending money and playing the game.

Instead of spending 50-80 bucks on a new expansion ahead, I collect all free packs + buy Arena for 10-20 bucks and use dust and gold that are leftovers.

This way I can build my favourite 4-5 decks when a new expansion comes out. When I played them until I am bored and want new decks, I start to dust 1-2, invest another 5-10 bucks into Arena + gold and come out with enough resources to build the next 1-2 decks.

So it’s rather fragmented milestones and the money is spend across the lifespan of an expansion rather than just pre-ordering in bulk.

I still call this F2P because I usually don’t buy the tavern pass nor pre-order nor buy packs for real money or gold - it’s much more cheaper. Call it semi-f2p if you want. I only play arena and build my collection from the packs gained there + dusting.

Ohhh it’s going to get worse:

So my roommate just took a survey through Hearthstone that spoke of pets possibly coming to Hearthstone.

In this survey, the devs were curious as to how likely they were to purchase said possible pets with a variety of price ranges from $99 (lol) to $5 (usd)

Pets may possibly interact with the board, sit on the side or even be used as replacement timers. Possibly even dealing damage to other players and/or cast spells even possibly helping you.

My roommate was told to keep this confidential which they agreed. :grin: I didn’t agree soooo… Here’s what the devs are planning for the future of hearthstone.

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Except you are exactly buying packs if you’re giving them real money for arena tickets… you’re just making an extra step in the process.

So you’re not actually F2P at all.

I saw that. Hard no from me. It’s too much.

Well it isn’t. At all. You’re objectively wrong. It’s not “semi-f2p” it’s just paying money for cards (and having some Arena fun on top).

Not that I’m against paying money. I think excessive F2P is cringe, it’s like working a job and getting paid in store credit. I’m not saying that DoorDash pays well but it makes more sense to deliver one order in 30 minutes and buy 3 packs with it, than grind out a bunch of crappy quests being miserable for hours.

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Assuming you already got them all, were willing to invest your gold into those instead of other things and sat on them for months until they finally got nerfed while not being able to play the decks you actually wanted because you didn’t have enough dust to craft them.

You’re the one not able to see it.

Did you had as much fun playing the game in the present moment back then as I did, when you couldn’t, because you were saving up and building up your collection?

Yeah, right, you didn’t, cuz both isn’t possible in the same time. One would have to sacrifice playing the game normally for 1-2 years in order to build a collection up to that point.

If you started out bored, only playing netdecks and what you have was always enough until you realized: Oh wow, I’m rich now because sh**t accumulated over those years where I brain-afked the game, then that’s fine. But that’s nothing that happens over night.

It’s semi f2p. Dusting cards to craft new ones because you don’t want to invest another 50 bucks into buying large bulks of cards is the very definition of f2p. Using your F2P gold to play arena and get out with net profit so you can build your next deck instead of just throwing 50 onto the screen is F2P.

That’s why I said semi-f2p. I use real money as a small support for the F2P journey but I don’t spend as much as the regular non-f2p players who usually pre-order and buy the tavern pass.

There’s no such thing as semi-f2p. There’s no such thing as semi-free. Either you spend real money, or you don’t. You spend real money.

I mean, congratulations on not being a whale I guess.

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Of course there is. After your logic you’re not a f2p player if you bought one expansion in 2018 and then neve again and been playing f2p since then.

If I kickstart the new expansion on Nov 5 with 20€ into the arena but then play it only f2P for the upcoming 3 months after all my resources that I got from the 20€ are long gone, then I am playing the game F2P. Hence we can call it semi-f2p.

Someone else who just pre-orders and buys new packs with money when needed isn’t doing this. They don’t have to dust in order to build new decks. They don’t have to do resource management. They just unlock everything at once right from the start with money.

That doesn’t make you a whale. Whales are people spending several thousands, buying all the expensive stuff, especially the premium one.

I have 20k dust in my hand, another 10k dust if I mass disenchant my remaining duplicate cards, I’m only missing legendary cards from standard except for epics I dusted when they nerfed cards I don’t use, and I have 9k gold for the next expansion after buying the miniset with gold.

I have spent no money, my collection dwarfs yours, and you are telling me that I am doing F2P wrong while you are actually spending money to not have a collection.

I certainly did because it didn’t take very long with how generous the system is now. I could always play several decks each expansion.

Except you keep ignorning that you spent that $50 bucks to buy cards, just not the the same way. You aren’t free to play.

But buying arena tickets doesn’t make you F2P either.

https://i.imgur.com/CGuM6bV.png

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But not as much as I did, and that’s what you don’t understand. If we both start fresh tomorrow and you don’t dust anything but I do, I will be able to play more decks than you, and I will be able to play more arena because I don’t have to avoid the risk of making minus like someone who saves up money for packs and building a collection.

While you need to save up to get back to a point where you can afford to sit on cards for 1 year until they get nerfed without lacking resources to play something else, I’ll have the time of my life.

You can simply not play the same amount of decks and arena runs as I in a point in time where we both got the exact same assets handed by the game but you’re saving up.

Which brings us back to the fact that people have different playstyles and demands. I would get bored out if I was playing like you for 1-2 years.

And it’s not even worth the wait since I don’t need the ability to play 15 decks in the same time. I build my own decks and then enjoy playing them for a couple of weeks until I start a new draft of homebrews.

Keyword: another. Keyword 2: semi.

If it helps:

semi- 2.

a combining form borrowed from Latin, meaning “half,” freely prefixed to English words of any origin, now sometimes with the senses “partially,” “incompletely,” “somewhat”.

You remind me of a joke about someone saying, “I don’t have a problem with (white powder that you can’t say here) I just love the way it smells” to deny they have a substance issue.

If you spend $50 or more dollars on the game in a given year, you are not free to play at all ever. You’re spending money. Just like no one is semi-pregnant, you aren’t free to play ever at all if you drop that level of cash.

But this is because you aren’t free to play, you’re spending money. It’s not a fair comparison to start new accounts but you can buy things… that’s the sole advantage you’re just blowing right past. You’re not free to play.

A better comparison would be if you did your thing your way and I bought catch up packs, the first bundle of the year, and got a free new player deck, I would be ahead of you in collections and fun all the way through compared to your approach.

Okay, I’ll explain it to you like you’re a toddler, because you behave like one:

Me pay 20€ for arena

Me use cards for 20€ from arena

Me bored with cards for 20€

Me now dusting cards

Dust not enough for new decks

Me now use f2p resources to grind gold

Me now buy Arena from f2p gold

Me now dust cards not required + keep the ones I need

Me now build new deck

Me now keep grinding f2p

Me now building next deck from f2p resources, not spending additional money

4 weeks pass

Me now maybe spend another 20 bucks to speed things up a bit

Repeat

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Let’s remind us for a second what semi means:

Ahhhhh! So if I get some content by paying but I refuse to pay more and play and use free resources to build additional decks entirely without spending more money, at least 50% of the entire expansion’s life-span. I did both partially, which means semi.

… so you paid money and got cards… which isn’t free.

So you paid money… which isn’t free to play…

I’m pretty sure you’re the one that has an issue with comprehension. You act as if whales don’t get the free rewards track, too. Lol. Dude, if you buy cards you’re not free to play.

I also have like 26 unused arena tickets last time I checked.

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So if you buy pizza from monday-wednesday and for the rest of the week live off food entirely from your own garden, you’re not semi living off your own food?

Brilliant logic.

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It’s not free if you have to pay. They’re not “semi-free.” There’s low cost, small fee, etc… .but not “semi-free” ever. Some words are binary, free is one of them when it comes to money.

You can insult people all day, but you’re still wrong. Your only advantage is you are paying for cards.

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I didn’t pay for the other 70%.

Of course you are, because you’re not clever enough.

I’m pretty sure that if financing an entire expansion, including all the desired Arena runs, would cost 500 bucks in total, but I decide to only spend 50 and earn everything else as a free-to-play player, that still makes me mostly a free-to-play player.

The only one having issues with comprehending such a simple thing is you.

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Whooosh.

Did you give them money? Then it wasn’t free.

“I paid $1000 for this bag of apples and they gave me free tickets to the Euro Final”

It wasn’t free.

I have a nearly full colllection, 30k dust reserves, 25 arena tickets, and 9k gold without spending a single dime on the game, but you’re the clever one.

Okay.

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Yeah it’s awful optimization for F2P to dust NEW expansion cards (at least do it for the ones in imminent rotation), but in that person’s defense, they only play Arena anyway.

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Nope, I didn’t. I wanted the new deck but couldn’t afford it from my ingame gold and dust, so I kept grinding f2p quests and free packs from the weekly tavern brawl until I could craft it, while someone else just cashed another 50 bucks in and unlocked in instantly → I took the f2p path. That’s how 70-80% of my time during an expansion’s lifetime usually looks like.

Yeah, we know because you stated that like 5 times in the past 2 hours. Must be your only achievement in life given how hard you cling to that.

It’s especially pathetic to see how you’re constantly trying to change the subject to yourself and your massive collection, when it wasn’t about you at all. But you just had to step in and put others down: “Lollllmaaooo, you peasant, step aside. You’re doing it all wrong. Look at me and my massive collection, the only valid way to play. Look again! Look how massive, and big my… my… Hearthstone collection is!

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/24/63/3a/24633a75bd4c6ad2ab0c1a6569bc7223.jpg

What’s really cringe is attacking people who are tying to give you good advice.

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